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Old 1 Jun 2009, 13:12   #1
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2010 Bathurst 12 hour

I had a look at the draft eligiblility list for the 2010 Bathurst 12 hour.

I noticed new car structures, such as combined production sedan/hatch class, one diesel class and they have got rid of the automatic class and SUV class.

BMW M3, HSV W427 and Lexus ISF are eligible in draft and i noticed no class for the Lotus Exige, Nissan 370Z & 350Z. I was looking forward to seeing the new 370Z in the race.

Can anyone shed anymore light on the topic?

http://www.bathurst12hour.com/files/...ligibility.pdf
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Old 4 Jun 2009, 01:04   #2
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Can't shed any more light (outsider looking in), but i'm with you Davo, i thought the new 370Z might have a bit of a show.

The other vehicle which is not there is the Audi TTS -200Kw & 350Nm torque- 1450 kg.

Evo has 217Kw and 366Nm but 1560kg - should be close in performance.

C'mon Audi - your market share is rising, how about giving BJR a car and a few bucks.


While i'm begging the manufacturers to get involved, Renault - get a MEGANE RS DCI 175(127Kw 360 Nm & 1380 KG) in there. Instead of letting Alfa run around all day in the 147 (110Kw 305 Nm & 1310kg)and pick up a class win - Great PR
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Old 4 Jun 2009, 11:30   #3
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Noticed also that the "Spherix" name has disappeared and is replaced by Yeehah Events P/L .. assume Denyer & co are still involved in the event?
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And let's not have any talk about parity.

It is production car racing. Parity should never be an issue. If it's not fast enough, try harder.
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Below the models listed this is written:

Please note: Any make/model that is not listed may be considered for inclusion into the table of Eligible Automobiles following application to Yeehah Events P/L and subject to each make/model meeting all eligibility requirements of the CAMS Group 3E Series Production Car Regulations

I was thinking this vehicle would be a good entry

LOTUS EVORA

http://www.caradvice.com.au/32138/20...ing-and-dates/

Its released later this year in aus.

Nissan should definately be applying to enter the 370Z.

Wasnt there a price cap in years previous? has this cap been removed now?
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Below the models listed this is written:

Please note: Any make/model that is not listed may be considered for inclusion into the table of Eligible Automobiles following application to Yeehah Events P/L and subject to each make/model meeting all eligibility requirements of the CAMS Group 3E Series Production Car Regulations

I was thinking this vehicle would be a good entry

LOTUS EVORA

http://www.caradvice.com.au/32138/20...ing-and-dates/

Its released later this year in aus.

Nissan should definately be applying to enter the 370Z.

Wasnt there a price cap in years previous? has this cap been removed now?
Price cap was around 120K for previous years, unsure on cap for next year.

That lotus looks impressive. Perhaps the Lotus cars Australia entry will be one of these? Can only hope so.
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I just hope it's not an EVO-a-thon again in 2010.
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Anyone have any info on the price cap, and on what price that is based?
Under the new ACCC rules quoted car prices should include dealer deliver, taxes and on road costs. Could vary from state to state and become rather complex.
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Now the GT-R has been punted for Safety Car duty... allow it to come play in the 12 hour... then we shall see what the Evo's are really made of

More seriously... you dont want any marque dominating the thing. You would hope WBR will be willing to replace their Subaru fleet and take the fight up to the triple diamond cars....

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Anyone have any info on the price cap, and on what price that is based?
Under the new ACCC rules quoted car prices should include dealer deliver, taxes and on road costs. Could vary from state to state and become rather complex.

Im not 100 percent sure but from what i understand most production series operate from a recommended retail price point. I would say that is mostly because its a fixed price. The on road pricing could vary a few thousand thus making it a grey area wether some models fit within or outside of the price bracket.

How much was/is the W427? Im fairly certain it is over 120,000. Would be nice to see a holden factory effort that is focussed on winning the event.
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I can see this race turning into another holdenfest......not for me thanks!
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(Without current knowledge) I would have thought the Nissan GT-R and the Audi RS4 were in the same price bracket as the BMW M3?

If the organisers start picking and choosing which cars are eligible (without a price ceiling) then it becomes a little bit wrong...doesn't it?
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More seriously... you dont want any marque dominating the thing. You would hope WBR will be willing to replace their Subaru fleet and take the fight up to the triple diamond cars....
That would be nice

Interesting to see that at the opening round of the AMC, Lee Castle was able to stick it right up the factory Evo 10 entries, winning the class, and would have won the round had he not been punted off while leading race two. Old Subarus are still good Subarus
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Going by the eligiblility list you would have to think that the only cars that really would put it up to the Evo X, would be either the Evo IX or the BMW M3.

Do you think the W427 would make up potentially 4 - 5 secs on the HSV R8 to keep up with the front running Evo's?

If you won't to see a 09 STI up the front, we need to have a factory supported effort like the 2007 event.
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We may well see an Sti from WA next year which will have the Maximum of preparation and be very quick
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