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Old 17 Nov 2012, 05:36   #1
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Who decides the "time certain' finish?

So who is responsible for this "time certain" BS?

Ch 7? V8 Supercars? The tea lady? I wrote- yes snail mail ( come on 7, move into the 1990s) to 7 after we were shafted on the Gold Coast.

They deny responsibility, blaming V8 Supercars. So whose BS decision is it?

They had plenty of time after the race to show a highlights package.
Mind you, frosty benefited from the race being shy of a lap.
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Old 17 Nov 2012, 06:32   #2
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The races are scheduled to finish at or before 5.15pm on Saturdays of race weekends.

This is written into the supp regs of the meeting, and well known by all and sundry

I imagine that today's snafu in the utes caused the start of the V8Supercar race to be delayed, plus the safety car period, meant the race could not finish its full complement of laps before the 5.15pm timeframe.
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Old 17 Nov 2012, 07:30   #3
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I thought it was based on allow Skaifey time to get to the pub and shout the bar?
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Old 17 Nov 2012, 07:41   #4
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Things such as fitting in to TV (Tv screen time is very important) The rules the track has to operate under to meet local noise rules, things like that.
So I reckon the reasons could vary depending on circuit.
If I had to put my money on one though, it would be to fit TV scheduling
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Old 17 Nov 2012, 07:45   #5
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I thought that it had to finish at that time, so as to give everyone time to get home and watch a replay of another FPR stuffup. Brilliant.
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Old 17 Nov 2012, 08:16   #6
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Years ago I was at Oran Park with some mates and had a scanner tuned in to race control. Every second transmission was "ask channel 10 if we can......."
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Old 17 Nov 2012, 08:59   #7
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It's written in the supp. regs, to meet the requirements of the TV broadcaster. The race finish time of 17.15 + 1 lap gives the TV time to do a couple of interviews post race.

Even Bathurst has a time limit, 161 laps or 17.15 + 1 lap.

If we had bad weather we could have a Supercheap Auto's Bathurst 950.
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Old 17 Nov 2012, 09:46   #8
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I saw one of DV_08's videos, 1986 Sandown ATCC. Even that race, as far back as then, was cut short as a result of tv. I'm not sure why or what excuse was available in those days though. Also, it's ridiculous that Bathurst is under time constraints as well, it should be exempted from it. They may as well do it, because the first time it occurs, there will be a huge uproar.
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Old 17 Nov 2012, 10:57   #9
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I might not be the brightest, but would it be a lot easier to start earlier, like 45 minutes earlier. Then most things would be covered.
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I might not be the brightest, but would it be a lot easier to start earlier, like 45 minutes earlier. Then most things would be covered.
then if there are no issues it finishes too early and the tv coverage has to fill in 45 minutes at the end which they dont want to do
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then if there are no issues it finishes too early and the tv coverage has to fill in 45 minutes at the end which they dont want to do
Well then it falls back to the TV mob, they are paying the dollars to cover it, so the easiest way, delay the telecast for 45 minutes that has been done many a time before. THe coverage is still of a full race distance and everyone is happy.
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I saw one of DV_08's videos, 1986 Sandown ATCC. Even that race, as far back as then, was cut short as a result of tv. I'm not sure why or what excuse was available in those days though.
There was a delay in the race meeting earlier in the day, and also the Sandown race track has a curfew.

Ch7 covered the whole afternoon of racing live in those days (support races and all), and the ATCC race was reduced from 25 to 21 laps.



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Well then it falls back to the TV mob, they are paying the dollars to cover it, so the easiest way, delay the telecast for 45 minutes that has been done many a time before. THe coverage is still of a full race distance and everyone is happy.
They used to delay the races, and everyone *****ed and moaned because the races weren't live and they couldn't sit and watch the races with their laptops next to them...

Ch7 can't win.
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Old 17 Nov 2012, 22:58   #13
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Well then it falls back to the TV mob, they are paying the dollars to cover it, so the easiest way, delay the telecast for 45 minutes that has been done many a time before. THe coverage is still of a full race distance and everyone is happy.
Then we all ***** that the race is not live and I can get the results from Natsoft or Bigpond (for the next 3 races anyway).
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They used to delay the races, and everyone *****ed and moaned because the races weren't live and they couldn't sit and watch the races with their laptops next to them...

Ch7 can't win.
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Then we all ***** that the race is not live and I can get the results from Natsoft or Bigpond (for the next 3 races anyway).
A shortcoming of modern life where we want our cake and be able to eat it too.
Sometimes life is like that, you have to be careful what you wish for, because once you get it the reality isn't anything like what you expected.
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Then we all ***** that the race is not live and I can get the results from Natsoft or Bigpond (for the next 3 races anyway).
Well I am no doubt a lot older than you, if you are really interested in watching it on TV, even if it is only 20 minutes delayed, have you ever heard of the OFF button on the computer, why not try that then you wont know who wins until the TV is finished. Brilliant idea.
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