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Old 29 Aug 2001, 21:02   #1
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The Best SUV Shocks...

Who do you think make the best shocks for my SUV...92 Mazda Navajho..Same car as a Ford Explorer...BTW I do not do any offroad.

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Old 29 Aug 2001, 22:28   #2
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Koni, in my experience, are the all-round best dampers.
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Thank's Ray..I used Koni Sport on my Alfa and liked them alot...Here in the states shops are telling me I should install KYB on the truck? Edelbrock is also another one I was thinking of...I want to take care of some of the body roll this SUV has..
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If the issue is body roll, then dampers aren't the problem, though they do have an indirect effect.

You need sway bars for that... which should be a little less expensive.

In my days in the trade, KYB were real cheapies, and I think the business sees a lot of brands go from that to a 'quality' line with different paint and fancier packaging. The Gas revolution, though I don't believe it was necessary, has shifted the goal posts a little, and I don't really keep in touch with it now. But I know Koni, and they are devoted to making good bits.
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When I bought my used Explorer, it had expensive shocks on it. When it was time to replace them, I just bought a heavy duty shock made for light trucks. They worked fine and saved a lot of money compared to a top brand name like Koni. And yes I do a little offroad. The Explorer really does need beefed up anti-roll bars too. At least the 91-94 models did.
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Are Konis no longer repairable?

This was always one of their features, saving a tidy sum if they started to leak or fail in any way. And the purpose of their adjustment was to compensate for wear over a lifetime.
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Thank you Ray and Neil...I relize that shocks alone won't take care of body roll..It's a sway/roll bar issue..The thing is,and I am sure Neil will agree these SUV's are not that well balanced..Right now mine has Gabriel Shocks which were on the truck when I bought it..Well they are **** quite honestly,and I am sure did not work the day they were installed LOL

So I think I will go with the KYB Gas(they only come in Gas) as everyone here, seems to think that they will more than do the job..IMHO I think that the tyre problem involving Ford/ Bridgstone-Firestone is due more to the design of the Explorer than anything else..What do you think Neil?

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Were the Gabriels bled? Of course, gas shocks don't need to be bled...
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I was not aware that you bled shocks?? They(the Gabriels that is) were on the Mazda when I bought it..But they are cheap to start with, about $20.00 US a piece..it also had realy terrible tyres..I just fitted some Daton Daytona by Bridgstone...Great I love them, they stop me in the rain, traction was my main concern of course..They were $358.00 US for four.. I have also been told that Edelbrock shocks are fantastic, and make a very big difference in ride and handling

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Sure, non-gas dampers need bleeding.

They have oil in the inner tube, where the piston runs, and an reservoir of oil in the outer tube, but there is air space to enable compression to take place when the piston rod (shaft) comes into the damper on the bump or closing stroke.

Now, usually they lie on shelves while they await fitment, or sometimes people will extend them on their side or even upside down... and they will thus either leak or draw air into the inner or functioning tube, past the footvalve.

The remedy is to close the shock while upside down, then invert it to the proper upright position (or at a slight angle, actually, is better) and open it. Doing this several times is good insurance before installation.

If my explanation isn't sufficient, just tell me where I have lost you... anyone? Without drawings it is somewhat complicated to get in mind...
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These are Gas Ray...But thank you, you really know your stuff..
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I was in that business for a long time.. but it was a while ago.

Ya gotta learn something!
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Of course and I can see that you did..KYB it will be I think..They are supposed to be realy fine..

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IMHO I think that the tyre problem involving Ford/ Bridgstone-Firestone is due more to the design of the Explorer than anything else..What do you think Neil?
Sorry Jeremy for the long delay in responding. I've been "absent".

For many reasons, none of them sound, I tend to defend the design of the Explorer. The one I bought had the original dreaded Firestone Wilderness tires on it. I never rolled over, the tires never separated, and both the car and the tires gave satisfactory service over their usefull lives. If by "design" you mean that a SUV has a higher center of gravity than a car, and it's truck frame and solid rear axle make it less "pliable" on the road than a car, then yes, the SUV design makes it more susceptable to roll over than a car. Still, don't people realize that when they buy the damn thing and drive accordingly?
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I don't know about the USA, but here in Australia advertising for what you call RV or SUV constantly refers to car-like ride and handling. I don't know what sort of car they're referring to but it must be a shocker!

My boss, who like most people knows little about cars, has been totally hooked by this line. He has a Toyota Prado (miniature Landcruiser) and he loves it, every time we go somewhrere he likes to point out the excellent ride and handling. I'm too keen to keep my job, so i don't advise thim that people who don't know how to really drive a car, wouldn't know the difference between a Lada or a Porsche, from the driver's seat.
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