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View Poll Results: Who is your driver of this year's race from Hockenheim?
Nico Rosberg 1 1.19%
Valtteri Bottas 28 33.33%
Felipe Massa 1 1.19%
Kevin Magnussen 2 2.38%
Daniel Ricciardo 17 20.24%
Sebastian Vettel 0 0%
Fernando Alonso 3 3.57%
Daniil Kvyat 0 0%
Nico Hulkenberg 1 1.19%
Sergio Perez 0 0%
Jenson Button 0 0%
Kimi Raikkonen 1 1.19%
Jean-Eric Vergne 0 0%
Esteban Gutierrez 0 0%
Romain Grosjean 0 0%
Lewis Hamilton 29 34.52%
Adrian Sutil 0 0%
Jules Bianchi 0 0%
Pastor Maldonado 1 1.19%
Kamui Kobayashi 0 0%
Max Chilton 0 0%
Marcus Ericsson 0 0%
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Old 22 Jul 2014, 13:37 (Ref:3436670)   #51
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To say that the move should have been cleaner because he had the superior car is to choose to have a very simple understanding of the dynamics of racing and following another car.

What if Hamilton spends another 2 laps behind button destroying his tires, and effecting the cooling of the engine, turbo, and so on. Then in the process and he doesn't reach the podium.

Hamilton didn't spend any longer than he needed too behind these cars. He made the moves. All credit to him. He is driving like someone who knows the consequences of following other cars for too long. Especially when Rosberg has the track to himself and is running in first...

Like they always say. Catching a guy is 1 thing. Passing him is another. Alonso lost a world championship because of this.
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Old 22 Jul 2014, 22:20 (Ref:3436827)   #52
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I understand why lots of people voted Bottas. Excellent drive.

I understand why there is praise for Ricardo, Alonso and even the Hulk.

I don't understand why NO-ONE has voted for Rosberg. What more was he supposed to do!?

However I have voted for Hamilton.
Your vote suggests you do understand why. If everyone gave a top 3, I think we'd find Rosberg would feature in many people's, but when people can choose only one, someone like Rosberg who, as you say, did everything right but also had little competition, particularly so given that his teammate started so far back, is always going to lose out. As many people tend to favour overtaking over a lights-to-flag win and some automatically discard such drivers (just how often did Vettel get DOTR last season? Not anything like as many times as he won races as I recall), it's not surprising Rosberg has garnered so few votes.
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Old 22 Jul 2014, 22:26 (Ref:3436831)   #53
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Your vote suggests you do understand why. If everyone gave a top 3, I think we'd find Rosberg would feature in many people's, but when people can choose only one, someone like Rosberg who, as you say, did everything right but also had little competition, particularly so given that his teammate started so far back, is always going to lose out. As many people tend to favour overtaking over a lights-to-flag win and some automatically discard such drivers (just how often did Vettel get DOTR last season? Not anything like as many times as he won races as I recall), it's not surprising Rosberg has garnered so few votes.
You're right, Rosberg would have featured in many Top 3s, but I normally think that the overall DOTR result does reflect similar sentiments of the forum as a whole. I didn't expect him to be at the top, but I did think he'd get a few votes. Mark Webber would have had more votes if he'd been on the list.
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Old 22 Jul 2014, 22:42 (Ref:3436834)   #54
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You're right, Rosberg would have featured in many Top 3s, but I normally think that the overall DOTR result does reflect similar sentiments of the forum as a whole. I didn't expect him to be at the top, but I did think he'd get a few votes. Mark Webber would have had more votes if he'd been on the list.
I think the obligatory Mark Webber vote has now been replaced by the obligatory Kimi Raikkonen vote.

I certainly don't sense any lack of sentiment for Rosberg. But in that Mercedes, we don't know how much of a challenge he had. That's why I couldn't plump for Bottas this time.

Now I would say Vettel is hard done by if anyone is here. Ricciardo does the heroics, going toe to toe with Alonso, but it was Vettel who beat them both. Pigeons and cats come to mind.
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Old 23 Jul 2014, 06:52 (Ref:3436921)   #55
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Bottas because he was the only one of 17 drivers who managed to keep Lewis behind him when attacked.
Bottas because he fought, even after his team told him not to fight.
Bottas because he is the man no one spoke about last year. The man no one gave a chance.
Bottas because he is a racer who held on for a great podium, and will hang on for many more.
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Old 23 Jul 2014, 07:23 (Ref:3436931)   #56
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I think the obligatory Mark Webber vote has now been replaced by the obligatory Kimi Raikkonen vote.



As long as Pete chooses to vote, we'll have a vote for Kimi in every poll. Not sure what he'll do next season when Kimi throws the towel in again though!
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Old 23 Jul 2014, 07:35 (Ref:3436936)   #57
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I'm very democratic, you see. I just had to include Kimi in the options. I've stopped short of including Mark this year. He literally does not turn up to the races.
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Old 23 Jul 2014, 07:50 (Ref:3436942)   #58
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He literally does not turn up to the races.
Kind of like Massa?
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Old 23 Jul 2014, 08:36 (Ref:3436952)   #59
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Kind of like Massa?


But he did get a DOTR vote, which is still more than Britney has. I rest my case m'Lud.
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Quite a few contenders today:

Hamilton - A great drive from 20th to 3rd but ultimately the car has such an obvious advantage that this isn't a great achievement. I also thought some of his overtaking was overhasty and he was lucky to not cause a crash when he was out of control sliding passed Kimi.

Rosberg - Again a dominant win but wasn't troubled due to a car advantage.

Riccardo - Some excellent passing and clever defensive driving against Alonso. He is probably my driver of the season so far.

But in the end I went for:

Bottas: Three podiums in a row and he's suddenly emerging and the next stage of F1. The most impressive part of his drive was the last 5 laps of so when he did hold off Hamilton in a fair fight. It shows that the Williams has a fair amount of pace.
Bottas for me - qualified well, good start and drove well throughout.

Hamilton made a lot of progress but realistically in that car pretty much any of the drivers could have done that so not driver of the race. Good scrap between Alonso and Riccardo - Riccardos recovery through the field after his first lap Massa dodging was a more impressive drive than Hamiltons I'd have said - given the disadvantage of having the Renault lump.
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Rosberg started from pole in the fastest car. He finished first.

Bottas, started from second on the grid in the second fastest car. He finished second.

Hamilton started from 20th on the grid and finished third. He had the fastest car, and should have finished second. He didn't.

Vettel had the third fastest car and finished fourth. A good drive.

Alonso had a poor car and finished fifth. A very good drive.

Ricciardo was delayed at the first corner and battled hard to finish sixth. Another very good drive.

Hulkenburg with a good car finished 7th. A steady drive.

Bianchi finished 15th. in a Marussia. Probably a good drive.

Who was driver of the race?

I have no idea.
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Rosberg started from pole in the fastest car. He finished first.

Bottas, started from second on the grid in the second fastest car. He finished second.

Hamilton started from 20th on the grid and finished third. He had the fastest car, and should have finished second. He didn't.

Vettel had the third fastest car and finished fourth. A good drive.

Alonso had a poor car and finished fifth. A very good drive.

Ricciardo was delayed at the first corner and battled hard to finish sixth. Another very good drive.

Hulkenburg with a good car finished 7th. A steady drive.

Bianchi finished 15th. in a Marussia. Probably a good drive.

Who was driver of the race?

I have no idea.
Must be Kimi then.
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Must be Kimi then.
Silly me! Of course.
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