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View Poll Results: Who will beat their team mate in 2018?
Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton 29 96.67%
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas 1 3.33%
Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel 29 96.67%
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen 1 3.33%
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo 8 26.67%
Red Bull: Max Verstappen 22 73.33%
Force India: Sergio Perez 7 23.33%
Force India: Esteban Ocon 23 76.67%
Williams: Lance Stroll 14 46.67%
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin 16 53.33%
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg 18 60.00%
Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr 12 40.00%
Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly 17 56.67%
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley 13 43.33%
Haas: Romain Grosjean 22 73.33%
Haas: Kevin Magnussen 8 26.67%
McLaren: Fernando Alonso 28 93.33%
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne 2 6.67%
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson 7 23.33%
Sauber: Charles Leclerc 23 76.67%
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Old 24 Oct 2018, 10:41 (Ref:3858828)   #251
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Ferraris score is wrong. There hasn't been a race where they have both retired, yet there scores only add up to 17 instead of 18
Good spot S griffin. I missed KR's win!!!!
Double checked, and all is correct as of list below.

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Team-mate battle results for the race after round eighteen (USA).


Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 14 (DNF's: Austria)
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 3 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Austria)

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 10 (DNF's: Germany)
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 8 (DNF's: Bahrain, Spain, Belgium)

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 11 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Britain, Hungary)
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 5 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Austria, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA)

Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 9 (DNF's: Britain)
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 9 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, Austria, Belgium, Japan)

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 10 (DNF's: Australia, Japan)
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 7 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Spain, Britain, USA)

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 10 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, France, Singapore)
Force India: Sergio Perez - 7 (DNF's: France)

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 11 (DNF's: Monaco, Canada, France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA)
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 7 (DNF's: Spain, Austria, Hungary)

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 11 (DNF's: Australia, Spain, France, Russia)
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 6 (DNF's: China, Monaco, Canada, Austria, Britain, Italy, Russia)

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 9 (DNF's: Monaco, Britain, Hungary, Belgium, Japan, USA)
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Britain)

Williams: Lance Stroll - 9 (DNF's: Canada, France, Germany)
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Germany)





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Post USA driver rankings.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...c4ykIUcMK.html

Hamilton rated as number one. Vettel is not even rated in the top ten.






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Old 27 Oct 2018, 23:38 (Ref:3859520)   #253
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Team-mate battle results for qualifying after round nineteen (Mexico).


Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 13
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 6

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 15
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 4

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 14
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 5

Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 11
Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 8

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 10
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 9

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 15
Force India: Sergio Perez - 4

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 19
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 0

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 14
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 5

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 16
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 3

Williams: Lance Stroll - 7
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 12





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Old 30 Oct 2018, 10:12 (Ref:3859908)   #254
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Team-mate battle results for the race after round nineteen (Mexico).


Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 15 (DNF's: Austria)
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 3 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Austria)

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 11 (DNF's: Germany)
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 8 (DNF's: Bahrain, Spain, Belgium)

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 12 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Britain, Hungary)
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 5 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Austria, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA, Mexico)

Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 9 (DNF's: Britain, Mexico)
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 10 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, Austria, Belgium, Japan)

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 11 (DNF's: Australia, Japan)
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 7 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Spain, Britain, USA)

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 11 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, France, Singapore)
Force India: Sergio Perez - 7 (DNF's: France, Mexico)

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 11 (DNF's: Monaco, Canada, France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA, Mexico)
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 8 (DNF's: Spain, Austria, Hungary)

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 12 (DNF's: Australia, Spain, France, Russia)
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 6 (DNF's: China, Monaco, Canada, Austria, Britain, Italy, Russia)

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 10 (DNF's: Monaco, Britain, Hungary, Belgium, Japan, USA)
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Britain)

Williams: Lance Stroll - 10 (DNF's: Canada, France, Germany)
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Germany)





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A new number one driver in the post Mexico GP rankings.

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Always good to have a totally meaningless table of meaninglessness.....

Some people clearly have too much time on their hands.... So who are this team of 'experts'?
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Interesting team-mate related stat post-Brazil.

Kimi now has more podiums than Seb this year - he leads him 12-11.

Podium related stats:
Hamilton 16 - Bottas 8
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Shows how many mistakes Seb has made
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Shows how many mistakes Seb has made
Yes Seb made mistakes but it also shows that much of the 'expert opinion' that Kimi was 'over the hill' or 'not pulling his weight' is just rubbish.
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Kimi's podium total for the season is also the equal best of his career -

2002 - 4
2003 - 10
2004 - 4
2005 - 12
2006 - 6
2007 - 12
2008 - 9
2009 - 5
2012 - 6
2013 - 8
2015 - 3
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Interesting team-mate related stat post-Brazil.

Kimi now has more podiums than Seb this year - he leads him 12-11.

Podium related stats:
Hamilton 16 - Bottas 8
Verstappen 8 - Ricciardo 2
Perez 1 - Ocon 0
Max has been on the podium 10 times this season thusfar.
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So Danny has only got a podium when he’s won? That’s bad if that is the case
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Kimi's podium total for the season is also the equal best of his career -

2002 - 4
2003 - 10
2004 - 4
2005 - 12
2006 - 6
2007 - 12
2008 - 9
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That’s impressive, I hadn’t twigged that. Thanks.
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Now that we also have every driver in the points this year - thought I'd also do a teammate analysis of points finishes:

Hamilton 19
Bottas 18

Vettel 19
Raikkonen 17

Verstappen 16
Ricciardo 12

Perez 11
Ocon 10

Stroll 2
Sirotkin 1

Sainz 12
Hulkenberg 11

Gasly 5
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Grosjean 6

Alonso 9
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Interesting little graphic outlining the quali margins between the drivers.

Grosjean the biggest surprise here.
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Shines some light on the people who claim Ferrari always had the best car in qualifying.
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Also shows Sauber's massive improvement.

Comparing the highly rated juniors, Leclerc improved Sauber's quali by a huge 1.78%, with Ericsson improving personally by 0.89%. Sauber by far the biggest improvers from 2017-18.

Haas improved by about 1%, McLaren went backwards, and most others stayed the same.

Surprised to see Renault not close the gap by even half a percent as I'm sure they would have hoped for which doesn't paint a pleasing picture for Danny Ricc next year.
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Sauber really were up there more, but how much of that was down to Leclerc? To be fair Ericsson was at times not far behind, so that suggests some improvement from the car
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The Sauber was back of the field with Williams in Melbourne so they made huge performance gains.
Leclerc's growing confidence in the car and set ups complemented it further.
Be interesting to hear what Kimi makes if the car after his first runs.
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Does it? It shows performance generally doesn't it - car and driver?
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Does it? It shows performance generally doesn't it - car and driver?
Indeed, and it didn't change very much from 2017 when nobody claimed Ferrari had the best car anywhere.
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Ah well. Can't say I'm that fussed what anybody claims...
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I think Mr Brundle can close the chapter on this thread with his summary here:

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