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Old 9 Jan 2001, 15:56   #1
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What is the cheapest form of (safe) Saloon motorsport (not karting).
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Old 9 Jan 2001, 15:57   #2
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And i don't mean banger racing!
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Old 9 Jan 2001, 17:25   #3
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touringlegend should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridtouringlegend should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridtouringlegend should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Those T-Cars are quite cheap I think.
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Old 9 Jan 2001, 17:52   #4
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Craig should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridCraig should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridCraig should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Short oval racing or grass track racing i'd suggest.
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Old 9 Jan 2001, 18:13   #5
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T cars cost over 15k...

Do you really want to know??

Drayton Manor MG Metro Championship - I reckons, after doing plenty of research on the subject.. Cars at about a grand, cheapest possible...
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Old 9 Jan 2001, 18:54   #6
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I'm going to have to agree with Craig.

Class 1 Autograss racing.
It does get any cheaper than this, in fact it's so cheap it's almost free!

It's a nationally regulated sport, (NASA) the British Nationals are held in Wales every September (I think) but rumour has it that this year will be at ROCKINGHAM!!

So, what's it take?

Purchase No. 1 - get a reasonably sound MOT failure Mini.

Purchase 2 & 3 (The most expensive items) will be Helmet and belts, Oh, and a race seat if you're at all worried about your back! (Any aftermarket road-spec 'competition' seat will do: Cobra SFY, Corbeau highback, etc.) The only other purchase, (and some make their own) is a rudimentary cage.

(And lets face it - you're gonna have to buy a lid, set of belts, cage and trailer for whatever you race.)

The rest is easy: there is nothing else to buy!! Strip it 'til it's regulation friendly (No glass, interior trim, chrome, etc)
No modifications AT ALL are permitted, (keeps a lid on prices) and the grids are FULL, so they must be doing something right!

Using second-hand safety items, there are guys out there that are racing every other Sunday for an entry fee of 3.00 (guaranteed four races) in cars that can be as cheap as 250.00 all in!

Now that is c h e a p!

If anyone is interested in regs, I can point you in the right direction.
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Old 9 Jan 2001, 22:11   #7
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Sparky- you win!

As far as circuit racing here in Oz, I'd guess that the local Gemini class is the cheapest, where you can get cars at about A$2500 (ok they aren't the best) which is about 1000 pounds. The best car you could possibly ever buy would be about $5000, and that usually comes with a wad of spares (including shells).
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Old 10 Jan 2001, 00:20   #8
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marcus has a real shot at the podium!marcus has a real shot at the podium!marcus has a real shot at the podium!marcus has a real shot at the podium!
Hey Sparky ..im interested in this autograss caper..just want to find out what it is all about..is there a website I can have a gander at..250 pounds sounds bloody appealing to me..thats probably about 3 grand less than ive spent on my kart...so sadly thats not the cheapest form of racing around...I want Autograss in OZ !!!!
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Marcus, there must be something similar in OZ? Surely??
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Try this site!
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...And this one!

(Unofficial, but informative and very funny! )
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Old 10 Jan 2001, 04:11   #12
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I agree.
There is nothing that cheap here in oz. Someone should do something about it and create state championships and then the best in the state can go on to the national championships.
As with marcus i have spend quite a lot of money on my kart as well so i want Autograss in oz too!!!!!!!
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well is there anything that cheap, but race around real race circuits eg Brands hatch, Silverstone etc.
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REAL race circuits :confused:

What, as apposed to pretend ones?

I don't think that you've considered this idea properly.
An example: Chris Y, a Ten-Tenths member, has recently taken his ARDS course. This course is to get you the necessary National Class 'B' licence to race on UK circuits. I think the course required some instruction, but I'm not sure. It certainly involves an expensive medical examination.

Once Chris had earnt his licence, he paid for a drive with a professional Mini Seven race team. I think the day, which consisted of practice, qualifying and racing, cost him over 900.00

That is before you've even looked at a car, RACMSA-approved racewear, safety equipment and the like.
Scrutineers at MSA events tend to be a little more strict in my experience, so the standard of car preparation is required to be that much higher. Entry fees are considerably higher (Like 150.00-ish), and you are unlikely to be competitive in any car described as 'cheap'.

If your only requirement is to drive 'round a 'REAL' UK race circuit, I suggest you pay for a trackday or take some instruction at one of the circuit driving schools.

You asked about cheap racing, and it realy doesn't get any more so than Autograss racing.
If you want National circuit racing, I'm afraid it will be anything but cheap.
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Or start off sprinting - as like me... Can't afford to do pucka races yet, but the MGCC sprint series this year visits Combe, Silverstone, Lydden and Goodwood. Plus visits hillclimbs such as Gurston Down... and you can use your (almost) bog standard road car..

Otherwise it's the Metros!!! but entry fees alone will be 125 each time.. etc etc.
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