2005 DTM car count - Page 11

**FIRE** · 8 Mar 2005, 17:13 (Ref:1246851)

flor · 8 Mar 2005, 18:57 (Ref:1246975)

i like the "gebrauchtwagen" livery

kmchow · 9 Mar 2005, 03:15 (Ref:1247327)

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Originally Posted by flor

i like the "gebrauchtwagen" livery

I think this paint scheme is brighter. Here's the NA version of Audi Pre-owned!

http://www.championracing.net/Audi_R.../LS04S6_05.jpg

It's too bad Sonax isn't coming back as title sponsor for MB! Weren't they MB sponsors for many years?

Fosca · 9 Mar 2005, 08:07 (Ref:1247425)

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Weren't they MB sponsors for many years?

Correct, Sonax sponsored MB many years

John Winter · 2 Apr 2005, 11:26 (Ref:1267799)

Well, apparently Alfa Romeo will enter the DTM in 2006

http://www.racing1.de/web/dtm/artikel.php?newsID=8187

**FIRE** · 2 Apr 2005, 11:48 (Ref:1267825)

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Originally Posted by John Winter

Well, apparently Alfa Romeo will enter the DTM in 2006

http://www.racing1.de/web/dtm/artikel.php?newsID=8187

Would be great, but first see then believe.
There were rumours of a factory Schumacher/Alfa team last year.

John Winter · 2 Apr 2005, 12:11 (Ref:1267837)

That was about a worksteam, something completely differrent if you ask me. As long as Guidici has the financials for it, it'll happen.

zizzo · 2 Apr 2005, 12:42 (Ref:1267846)

The first site to report this was www.racingworld.it, http://www.racingworld.it/dtm/notizi...?idtitolo=0841

Giudici is a man with a great will, but Alfa doesn't want a 159 in the DTM series.
Alfa is officially doing WTCC, and wants his cars only in WTCC. They are pushing on Giudici to make him drop the idea, let's see who will win..

John Winter · 2 Apr 2005, 13:56 (Ref:1267876)

I believe the DTM rules have been changed now so that it doesn't have to be a official works entry.

**FIRE** · 2 Apr 2005, 14:23 (Ref:1267886)

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Originally Posted by zizzo

The first site to report this was www.racingworld.it, http://www.racingworld.it/dtm/notizi...?idtitolo=0841

Giudici is a man with a great will, but Alfa doesn't want a 159 in the DTM series.
Alfa is officially doing WTCC, and wants his cars only in WTCC. They are pushing on Giudici to make him drop the idea, let's see who will win..

Has he the money to develop a competative car?

John Winter · 2 Apr 2005, 14:55 (Ref:1267901)

Things will be different from next year on due to the new regulations. The factory teams won't develop new cars just to win a couple of tenths. So that means non work teams have more chances

zizzo · 2 Apr 2005, 15:28 (Ref:1267926)

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Originally Posted by John Winter

I believe the DTM rules have been changed now so that it doesn't have to be a official works entry.

Alfa Romeo doesn't matter if it's official or unofficial, they don't want any Alfa in DTM.
It's a marketing matter i think, they choose WTCC, and they don't want to help DTM's growing, nor to lose from Mercedes and Audi, even in unofficial way.

To answer to you FIRE, Gianni Giudici is a really rich man, he has money and passion to do such a thing to develop a good DTM car, but Alfa menaced legal actions.

kmchow · 2 Apr 2005, 17:20 (Ref:1268000)

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Originally Posted by John Winter

I believe the DTM rules have been changed now so that it doesn't have to be a official works entry.

If only they had that rule 6 years ago so Zakspeed could have raced the Volvo C70!!

kmchow · 2 Apr 2005, 17:21 (Ref:1268001)

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Originally Posted by zizzo

To answer to you FIRE, Gianni Giudici is a really rich man, he has money and passion to do such a thing to develop a good DTM car, but Alfa menaced legal actions.

How can Alfa take legal action against him if the DTM rules change? What is his relationship or lack thereof with Alfa? Is he an Alfa Romeo dealer too?

**FIRE** · 2 Apr 2005, 17:26 (Ref:1268005)

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Originally Posted by zizzo

Alfa Romeo doesn't matter if it's official or unofficial, they don't want any Alfa in DTM.
It's a marketing matter i think, they choose WTCC, and they don't want to help DTM's growing, nor to lose from Mercedes and Audi, even in unofficial way.

To answer to you FIRE, Gianni Giudici is a really rich man, he has money and passion to do such a thing to develop a good DTM car, but Alfa menaced legal actions.

Maybe you are right. DTM are silhouttes so they are not based on a road car. They have only a body which has the shape of a road car. Alfa can take legal actions to prevent the use of a body with the shape of a Alfa model.

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Originally Posted by kmchow

If only they had that rule 6 years ago so Zakspeed could have raced the Volvo C70!!

I repeat again: To refuse the Zakspeed Volvo was a big mistake from ITR.

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