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Originally Posted by JamesK
Hi Mark
Not At all, as per my earlier post
1/ Engines in a variety of specs, confirmed as per your post
2/ At a cost of the competitors, confirmed as per your post.
3/ All technically legal, apparently acceptable as per your post.
4/ $20K just a dream, well yes. You stated "all have the exact same $20K engine"
Did you not strongly recommend to all teams to upgrade the pistons and rods in their origional engine plus recommend to blueprint the bottom end.
The est. cost of all this another $20K.
Following your recommendations the real cost of the origional engine is now approx $45K with the dry sump.
Is not the basic $20K engine you indicated the same as that origionally supplied, therefore purchase the new basic engine and you still have another $20K to spend if you follow your own recommendations.
Also wasnt those mods recommended by GM.
Of the 14 engines you indicated will be in service this weekend that have not yet been serviced (against your recommendations) please advise the number of those 14 that have had only the mains and big ends replaced, you have obviously forgottten those.
I can see nothing misleading or false in MY post.
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JamesK,
Your reply, suggest you have an issue in accepting the facts.
I can only repeat the facts, either you accept them graciously, or you dont, the decision is yours.
To suggest that it has, or will cost a team $45K for a new spec engine, ie. with the upgraded piston's and connecting rods could be called not only misleading but mischievous in its intent, I am not accusing you of that, however, I am saying the in the eyes of many people you could appear to be like a "dog with a bone" simply not wanting to let it go.
In the use-full life of a motorsport engine, it's not unusual to spend money freshening that engine, as was and is still the case with a TL spec NZV8's engine.
In our case the V8ST team owner has two recommended option's.
Option 1. Service the bottom-end, by replacing the piston's [which come complete with new Titanium connecting rods etc,] at a cost of $7,000, plus gaskets, bearing shells etc, a further $1000, and a fixed price labour content of $3,000, and finally a engine tech and resealing fee of $375, and the total cost is well under $12K plus GST.
Option 2. Purchase a brand new "Long engine" for $16,000, blue-print the bottom end of that engine for a fixed labour cost of $2,000, plus gaskets, bearing shell's etc if needed, for a further $1,000 and you have a brand new blue-printed Long engine for $19,000, plus GST.
Option 2 also allows the used long engine to be sold on Trade-me, or the like for say $10,000, and the complete, brand new replacement engine, effectively cost the team owner less than $10K. I know of no other form of premium racing series were the engine cost are so inexpensive, including the TRS series were you pay $15K just to lease the engine each season.
Mark Petch.
Technical Director,
V8 Supertourers Ltd