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Old 18 Apr 2018, 01:37 (Ref:3816280)   #96
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Very well, UN.

V8F, no doubt the rents at those "higher-standard" tracks are more expensive, so the clubbies and track-dayers are more likely to be stuck running on the those tight, slower, club circuits with more limited run-offs anyway, places like Mallala or Blackhawk Farms. So in practical terms, your argument is a fallacy in many cases.

No, unless you have significant downforce, Barber isn't nearly as quick or exciting as the Indy Cars make it look.

You just poked a hole in your own argument, saying Barber is "superior" to The Bend, when the former is only 2.3 miles and the latter is 3.076 miles.

As for the rest of the comments, I have the spreadsheets to show that that's bunk. Even with my listings for National GT series needing a bit of a update, I have what I need.

The broadcast stated that the pole on the Int'l Circuit at The Bend was a 1:48.4, which translates to 102.155 mph around the 3.076-mile layout.

So, here's a listing, and keep in mind, GT3 cars have only gotten faster in the last few to several years.

Other "not top-line" GT3 circuits with comparable or highers speeds to The Bend:
Brands Hatch GP- 2.623 miles, 1:22.891, 113.918 mph (2017)
Donington Park GP- 2.500 miles, 1:27.746, 102.569 mph (2012)
Guapore- 1.920 miles, 1:04.762, 106.729 mph (2012)
Lime Rock Park- 1.500 miles, 51.271, 105.323 mph (2013)
Oulton Park Int'l- 2.792 miles, 1:34.044, 106.878 mph (2014)
Road Atlanta- 2.540 miles, 1:20.031, 114.256 mph (2017)
Sportsland Sugo- 2.302 miles, 1:20.341, 103.150 mph (2013)
Thruxton- 2.356 miles, 1:15.618, 112.164 mph (2007)

So, looking at average speed versus lap length, it becomes clear which circuits do or don't have an abundance of fast, flowing, sweeping corners. And plenty of "club" circuits, especially when compared to new F1 constructs, are actually faster and much more "open" in their layouts.

GroupA, the F1 cars are sturdy enough to take such a hit. If they weren't, the prospect of nailing the wall at the chicane after coming out of the tunnel at Monaco doing 290km/h would be totally unacceptable; another Wendlinger crash should have a much better end result now than it did in 1994. And a tire wall would make that sort of thing a much kinder impact too.

Besides that, there's a large gravel trap outside of Lukey Heights, and if you go off such that you miss it, your trajectory will take you past the wall without hitting it anyway. Gravel traps, particularly when the right material is used, and grading is done properly, are perfectly capable of arresting out-of-control cars, even in the wet.

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