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Old 9 Apr 2024, 15:06 (Ref:4204359)   #461
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I've been on this site 20 years and I still can't multiple quote so please excuse my archaic way of rpying to many points:

>>>>>>>>>>Well most of us live with much better insulation and much more efficient heating.

You're picking up on the wrong thing. My major point is we don't get these cold temperatures any more. It's not a "few warm winters", I'm working outside all over the country all year round and I can guarantee that for the last few years it's been getting steadily warmer and stormier. It's nothing to do with house insulation or whatever, I have NO insulation in my awnings! Never mind fabcy graphs and clever articles, this is end user experience.

>>>>>>>>>The problem, should anyone care to look, is that renweables are not having any impact on the weather.

I didn't even hint they were. My argument for renewables is to reduce the reliance on some of the worst despots in the world, Why on earth do we have to go cap in hand to Putin, Trump, Raisi et al? Why don't we try to become self sufficient in energy? As for costing £X,000 "green tax" per household, that's called "investment" and there's been precious little of that by our generation as we hoover up resources that future generations will struggle without. My workshop costs my customers some money in addition to the bare costs of a spanner monkey, it's investing in my facilities so they can have their karts prepared to a high standard. It's the same principle.

>>>>>>True. But if your neighbour is throwing trash in the street, does that mean you stop placing your waste in your bins for collection?

It could be said that you start by sorting your own house out first, and then lead by example.


This. This is so right. "Every journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step", I feel like I need to repeat it every time we discuss this.


I'm not a green zealot - with my job how could I be? - but even so I've equipped my new workshop with LED lighting and economical heaters. Why? Because it saves me money. Same with switching to a more economical car. If we all did that we'd buy less from the despots of the world, reduce their power and influence. Rishi shouted: "inflation is going up, nuffink to do wiv me guv, it's Putin going to war wot dun it." Imagine if Putin going to war didn't push up our energy prices?

I just can't understand why people are so keen to love oil and not look for something else.
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