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Originally Posted by 2 litre Touring Car Star

What would you need? You can pass off anything as conjecture.

Incorrect. Conjecture is clearly defined as an opinion or conclusion based on insufficient presumptive evidence.

Originally Posted by 2 litre Touring Car Star

Indycars are watered down F1 cars. The performance (and complexity) of F1 is higher than Indycars/American racing.

Even the slowest F1 car would beat the best Indycar. On a road course, a Nascar is slower than the F1 safety car.

The most obvious evidence showing the difference between the two cultures is Nigel Mansell and Michael Andretti's 1993 seasons.

All of Andretti's weaknesses were exposed, and Nigel Mansell not only wins the Indycar series but had a better season on ovals than any season Rick Mears had. It's not that Andretti was ordinary; that's not a big deal (He could've overcome them with time and the introduction of passive cars), but having to work and adjust to a new, more critical environment put him off. Much easier in the comfort of home.

How many UK/European drivers who don't see any room for them in F1 then go to American and produce results they were unlikely to reach in F1?
How common is it to see a successful American racer go to Europe?
You'd definitely don't see any of the weaker American drivers go, "Yeah, I'll go to Europe since it's much easier over there.

Alex Zanardi, who was not remarkable in F1 before champcars, then became a Champcar/American racing legend in the space of 3 years. Then after doing that, became a worse f1 driver!

I've seen it here with Australian drivers. In the 90s, Marcos Ambrose had some potential, but was just another good young driver, Probably slightly diminished as he didn't win the formula ford series driving for the team that won the previous 3.

Ambrose spent a couple of years in Europe and usurped drivers that would've had the better of him or higher reputations than him before racing in Europe. Jason Bright was better than Ambrose in Formula fords. He did 1 year of USfford2000 but didn't improve. ."


Why did the IRL exist? Tony George couldn't hack the UK/European influence on American racing, which was shown up.
Drivers, constructors, everything.


Americans fail in Europe for the same reason the Japanese do. It's too hard, and you can have it easier at home.


What more do you want?

As none of this has any relevance to the topic and as this thread, as a topic of discussion is concerned hasn't been going anywhere, I'm closing it.