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Old 17 May 2019, 10:42 (Ref:3904323)   #9
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I originally read this and completely missed the "behind the bumper" comment, and jumped straight to the idea of free energy. External wind turbine generators would cause too much drag, and you wouldn't put enough energy into the battery to recover what you lost from the drag.

However, I don't know how that would apply to inboard ones. The area in front of the radiator, for example, is already draggy, so do you lose less putting them there? Is it the same loses as externally placed WTGs?

For perspective, a standard onshore wind turbine can generate 2-4MW (depending on the model, obviously). I built a simulation of wind turbine control room a few years ago and there's a formula for calculating the power output of a turbine. (here). Using a rotor diameter of 20cm (reasonable for a car?), wind speed of 50mph and a coefficiency of 0.4, I get an approximate power output of 129 watts.

But I've no idea how useful that would be in a car. Over a 100 mile drive would it generate enough to add additional miles? That's beyond my knowledge limit, so hopefully someone smarter can take this and convert it to car.
Using your figures of 129 W output , over a 100 mile at 50 MPH that would generate approx 1/4 of a Kilo Watt Hour of energy . So enough to drive a light EV , [ going steady ] about 3/4 of a mile extra .
But using the principles of energy transference , would use more energy to do it , so might lose perhaps 1&1/2 miles from the original range .

But if you look at aerodynamics , where power has to increase at a square of any wind drag increase , then the decrease in mileage might be a lot more .

Which is why car manufacturers & race car designers spend a lot of time & money just to try to find a tiny improvement in aerodynamics
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