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Old 20 Nov 2020, 13:38 (Ref:4018031)   #2167
Rudernst
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Originally Posted by MGDavid View Post
I wonder how much of that is 'project fear'? I know some of it is!

e.g. I'm not aware of a single mobile operator who plans to reintroduce roaming charges in EU. My own operator states on their website:
'We plan to continue to provide inclusive roaming to our customers going on holiday or travelling in the EU regardless of the outcome of the trade deal discussions.'

For motor sport, we know that hardly anyone actually gets paid to race even up to international GT level so all the 'work' stuff is totally irrelevant to drivers although it may apply to preparers. Then again it may not, as there is no payment from an EU person or company if the driver, owner and preparer are all UK-based, and so the EU activity can be provided as an inclusive service within a UK contract. Think outside the box!

We also know from a previous post that MSUK is working to provide a cost-effective partner for carnets. If you do the admin and paperwork yourself (and who else is better placed to create a list of your car, your tools and your spares?) then you just need an official stamp from your local chamber of commerce which may run to a few tens of pounds for the year. (this was discussed around a year ago too)

I wonder if somebody will try to tell us that prior to 1974 nobody ever went abroad to race a car !


ahem

"Think outside the box!"

in relation to matters of taxation is not very good advice.
with or without intent, that is criminal activity

there will be a delay, a grace period until this gets looked at, of course
but we have had quite a few spectacular cases involving the German / Swiss border and professionals hauling expensive cars and bike to shows.
Those caught paid a lot of money

but expect cars and vans and lorries with UK plates to get special attention from customs and police forces, not in 2021 but by 2022 for sure
swiss lorries in Germany, are screened and checked

as to working in the EU or providing services on a professional basis
better do that with necessary permits in place and taxation sorted (if applicable)
again, there will probably be a grace period
worst case scenario: if involved in any kind of serious accident with somebody severely hurt, without proper permits in place, be prepared for things to turn nasty.
German police for instance are often quicker to arrive than the ambulance (fascinating but inevitable, more police cars out there than ambulances, so easiert to divert) and the very first thing they check (after making sure nobody needs urgent first aid) is paperwork, all kinds of paperwork, from current MOT to safety assesment requirements, to records of work related required safety training, and what have you, even if the coppers on site of the accident dont know what to ask for at first, they can contact somebody who does and that is what they do if fancy tickles them
the larger and more corporate You look the more likely you are to get put through the grinder

RudE

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