[Team] Red Bull: Unbullievable

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by EastonNeston

how about Max and Yuki at Aston Martin in 2026. Yuki is Honda's current F1 choice and AM will be using Honda Engines in 2026

People have speculated about Yuki going to AM given the Honda connection. But it seems that the only way this can happen is for Lance to step aside (I assume AM will always want a top name like Max, Alonso, etc. in the other car) and there seems to be no evidence this will happen anytime soon. Especially given Stroll Sr. has been working to build his F1 empire, why yank his son out just now that the ball is really rolling with getting Newey. Not that I agree that Lance should stay. I think Lance can be a decent driver, but in any other team he would have been given the boot a long time ago. But currently Lance is the pinnacle of pay drivers.

Richard

[TrapezeArtist]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

if DR is out which presumably means he will not be an option for next season, does the knock on effect mean RBR are locking themselves in with Perez for next season?

I was thinking along similar lines. If Dan and Checo are out the door by the end of the year (which would make sense to me), Red Bull are left with a superstar, a journeyman and a possible young hotshot to fill the four seats. That leaves an interesting vacancy.

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by TrapezeArtist

I was thinking along similar lines. If Dan and Checo are out the door by the end of the year (which would make sense to me), Red Bull are left with a superstar, a journeyman and a possible young hotshot to fill the four seats. That leaves an interesting vacancy.

Well Horner had already naned Hadjar and Lindblad from their own books.

I'm not convinced Hadjar is anything to write home about. He's seems to play the 'victim' a lot over the radio in F2 when he fails. Seems to have suspect racecraft too. In the ever more frequent races where he has qualified down the field he's hardly come through to rescue decent finishes. Hardly gobsmackimg ace in the making material.

Don't know huge amount about Lindblad, admittedly but seems pretty comsistent in F3?

Anyway it doesn't matter they'll sign George Russell! Lol.

[GTRMagic]

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by chunterer

He's seems to play the 'victim' a lot over the radio in F2 when he fails. Seems to have suspect racecraft too.

Does he swear in press conferences?
If he does he seems a good fit.

[EastonNeston]

We can do without another driver with the negative "Luggage" that comes with the Verstappen family!

[crmalcolm]

Max needs to find a new 'trademark'.

Guenther already holds the swearing crown and Kimi hold the short, abrupt answers title!!!

[chillibowl]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

kinda like they drew him with the cartoon stink lines!

[greentrumpet]

Is the Honey Badger back?
https://www.planetf1.com/features/si...24-conclusions

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Does he swear in press conferences?
If he does he seems a good fit.

Dunno? he's just a bit rubbish!

[chunterer]

Lawson has a huge oppo now.

He showed he's got the basics nailed last year.

Now he can really stake a claim to be a major player in Red Bulls future plans.

I think he'll do just that.

Bottom line is that he is quick and level headed.

Plus it'll be great to have a Kiwi f/t again.

Since Bruce, Denny and Amon New Zealand have really only had Thackwell and Dixon come close to an F1 career.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by chunterer

Lawson has a huge oppo now.

He showed he's got the basics nailed last year.

Now he can really stake a claim to be a major player in Red Bulls future plans.

I think he'll do just that.

Bottom line is that he is quick and level headed.

Plus it'll be great to have a Kiwi f/t again.

Since Bruce, Denny and Amon New Zealand have really only had Thackwell and Dixon come close to an F1 career.

**Brendon Hartley puts hand up**
Oh, as does Howden Ganley
Collectively 60 GP starts between them.

As an aside did Dixon ever get closer than a test or two with Williams ?

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by greentrumpet

Is the Honey Badger back?
https://www.planetf1.com/features/si...24-conclusions

I think I saw a different version of that same theory yesterday. If I remember correctly it was some relatively unknown F1 pundit peddling the idea. I tend to have a rough time believing the theories that Daniel was pushed out of his seat as sort of a preparation for him to replace Perez.

What I can believe... is that Perez may have indicated internally that he does plan to retire. Maybe even before end of the season. With speculation that this might be announced on or after the Mexican GP. So Red Bull has the quandary of who to promote. They don't believe it will be Daniel so it will be either Liam or Yuki. They are unsure about Yuki, but need more evidence for Liam. So they push Daniel out, put in Liam to measure him against Yuki. If Liam does well, then Liam gets it. If Yuki outpaces him... I don't know if they really will consider Yuki. I suspect they are just wanting to confirm that Liam is the right answer. Then if Liam goes to RB, who to pair with Yuki at VCARB? Especially if it happens before end of 2024 (probably unlikely). They could put Daniel back in with Yuki, but but I think they will pick someone else who is new (no idea who). Part of me wants to see Yuki just wipe the floor with Liam. Mostly because it just probably would just screw Red Bull's plans. But in reality, I expect Liam to do just fine and potentially better than Yuki.

If all of this was some weird path to replace Sergio with Daniel, then they would just wait, leave both Daniel and Yuki at VCARB. Then once Sergio was out, put Daniel in and Liam and Yuki in at VCARB. No need for some crazy 3D chess game in which us mere mortals can't understand the advanced gameplay required to make it happen.

I think all of these crazy theories to keep Daniel in F1 are just fans of his cooking up weird scenarios that fit with an ever negative reality that Daniel is experiencing. It's interesting that it's not just about keeping him in F1, but that he is going to land in a top team (if RB is still a top team! )

However... as I have said before, Red Bull makes really weird driver decisions. So given the Horner/Marko split, you could see Marko doing what he is doing now (talking about why Daniel is not the right person for Red Bull) and Horner just off doing his own thing. Including potentially putting Daniel in the Red Bull for whatever crazy reasons he comes up with.

Richard