BTCC Team AON focus's

Spanner monkey · 15 May 2010, 14:10 (Ref:2690901)

Have been told this morning that the 2 team aon focus's are to have smaller turbo restrictors fitted from oulton park round onwards. The size changes from 44.5mm to 37mm.
That'll slow them down abit :-(

Aunt Sally · 15 May 2010, 17:45 (Ref:2691013)

Yes, that's right.

Too many teams complaining at Brands Hatch at the speed of the car.

tux1234 · 15 May 2010, 17:51 (Ref:2691018)

Its only really fast on the straights though.

Sodemo · 15 May 2010, 18:19 (Ref:2691030)

Surprising if true, I didn't really see a massive straightline advantage at Brands Hatch.

Aunt Sally · 15 May 2010, 18:21 (Ref:2691032)

That is due to the Turbo!

ascarracinguk · 15 May 2010, 20:23 (Ref:2691108)

might not have seen a big advantage at brands, but i was marshalling at rockingham, they were going around other cars like they were standing still

trebor901 · 16 May 2010, 09:45 (Ref:2691365)

so how do they justify this? because they didnt do the same to the crappy TDI's in 2008. Jason Plato cries and he gets what he wants. Pathetic.

chunder · 16 May 2010, 09:47 (Ref:2691368)

To be fiar you dont wee Jordan's car waltzing past allcomers on nearly every straight so I can see the BTCC point. Let them have a bit of success and then try and tighten things up a bit.

Audi had this with their A4 Quattro but you couldnt really stop a car from braking better or being quick in the wet!

**FIRE** · 16 May 2010, 10:51 (Ref:2691397)

Banning turbo diesels and allowing turbo LPG doesn't make sense. But okay we have that situation now. I am not surprised to see the Fords getting restricted.

redshoes · 16 May 2010, 13:13 (Ref:2691483)

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Originally Posted by trebor901

so how do they justify this? because they didnt do the same to the crappy TDI's in 2008. Jason Plato cries and he gets what he wants. Pathetic.

The question really should be how did they justify allowing the turbo-LPG engine in the first place, since unlike the TDi in 2008 this is a configuration not actually in the regs.

Plato wasn't the only one to question the speed of the Focus, he was just the only one to air his views on live TV.

Spanner monkey · 16 May 2010, 19:44 (Ref:2691912)

I think the key to having LPG in the rules this year was the difference of AON pulling out & them getting a sponsor like calor! The speed difference at brands on the 1 speed trap was 5mph

dyewat808 · 16 May 2010, 21:43 (Ref:2692029)

And 5mph is a lot in motor-racing

steve_r · 17 May 2010, 11:38 (Ref:2692426)

I suppose an element of tinkering with restrictions / ballast was always likey to happen given the fact we have so many different spec cars within one series (S2000, NGTC, BTC, FWD, RWD).

dyewat808 · 18 May 2010, 15:25 (Ref:2693380)

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Originally Posted by steve_r

I suppose an element of tinkering with restrictions / ballast was always likey to happen given the fact we have so many different spec cars within one series (S2000, NGTC, BTC, FWD, RWD).

And long may it remain so, too.

I'm happy with these small changes, as long as the BTCC sticks to its reasonably club-ish roots, and doesn't let the big money spoil things.

Spanner monkey · 18 May 2010, 20:37 (Ref:2693548)

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and doesn't let the big money spoil things.

If £350k for a season is'nt big money then i think i'll join after the mid season break

Matt · 25 May 2010, 06:59 (Ref:2697627)

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Originally Posted by Spanner monkey

If £350k for a season is'nt big money then i think i'll join after the mid season break

$350k is pretty damn cheap in the professional motor racing world.

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve_r

I suppose an element of tinkering with restrictions / ballast was always likey to happen given the fact we have so many different spec cars within one series (S2000, NGTC, BTC, FWD, RWD).

I wouldn't count FWD and RWD cars as two different specs. They're both built to the same technical regulations, just different drive wheels.

duke_toaster · 25 May 2010, 07:26 (Ref:2697637)

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Originally Posted by Matt

$350k is pretty damn cheap in the professional motor racing world.

£350k, not $350k. We're talking about $500k, or €408k.

Alfa Fan · 25 May 2010, 12:29 (Ref:2697817)

Why to American's always think other would be talking in $s? It really puzzles me?

Matt · 25 May 2010, 17:11 (Ref:2698003)

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Originally Posted by duke_toaster

£350k, not $350k. We're talking about $500k, or €408k.

I know, it's still damn cheap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfa Fan

Why to American's always think other would be talking in $s? It really puzzles me?

Why? Because we don't have GBP or Euro keys on our keyboards, and it was 3am. Chill out.

nickyf1 · 25 May 2010, 19:02 (Ref:2698114)

In all fairness, we don't have euro keys either (just noticed that)

duke_toaster · 26 May 2010, 08:46 (Ref:2698395)

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Originally Posted by nickyf1

In all fairness, we don't have euro keys either (just noticed that)

Control-Alt-4?

VIVA GT · 26 May 2010, 09:40 (Ref:2698416)

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Originally Posted by duke_toaster

Control-Alt-4?

Oh yes! That works. Thanks duke...

roachy101 · 26 May 2010, 10:06 (Ref:2698434)

the limits on the focus are a little surprising. its still a engine in development so really, the guys at toca ought to give it a bit more time before they start restricting things

Sodemo · 26 May 2010, 11:58 (Ref:2698491)

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Originally Posted by roachy101

the limits on the focus are a little surprising. its still a engine in development so really, the guys at toca ought to give it a bit more time before they start restricting things

I was surprised at the restrictions especially considering at Thruxton (a power circuit) they were no where in terms of pace.

redshoes · 26 May 2010, 12:25 (Ref:2698509)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

I was surprised at the restrictions especially considering at Thruxton (a power circuit) they were no where in terms of pace.

They were the quickest two cars over the start line speed trap in FP1/FP2/Q/R1 and one of the cars was quickest over the same trap in R2/R3.

1st and 2nd over the Sector 1 speed trap in FP2. Other than R2 they had one car in the top 4 on that trap in every other session.

The drop-off in the later races wouldn't have been helped by damage from both cars being thrown at the scenery.

I'd hardly call that nowhere.

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