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20 Jan 2005, 14:11 (Ref:1205638) | #1 | |
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Cheap track day car??????
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Anyone got any suggestions what the best car would be (to use as a runabout 2nd car and to use on track days) for cheap money? (around 1k) I've never done a track day b4 but thinking of trying it out. would a hot hatch (205 gti, atra gte, golf gti) or would something like a large engined mk1 mondeo or cavalier/vectra be best? Also would it be worth putting strut braces, cage etc in? (can have these custom made cheaply) cheers for any info, Dave |
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20 Jan 2005, 16:19 (Ref:1205753) | #2 | ||
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Something light like 205 GTi or Golf would be ideal, plus making it stiffer (cage, suspension etc) would make it fly.
Have a look for ex-750MC Hot Hatch/Stock Hatch cars, usually easy to make raod legal (if they aren't already),, plus stuff like the cage, suspension and other bits and pieces are already done. Might break the £1k budget though, depends if you want to get your hands dirty. |
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20 Jan 2005, 17:55 (Ref:1205814) | #3 | ||
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Mk2 Golf 16v - Like mine (click me)
You can create a very handy 150bhp Golf for around £1k. I'm happy to offer sdvice on the cheap and effective uprgardes |
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21 Jan 2005, 15:37 (Ref:1206492) | #4 | |
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Thanx Hobson, great suggestion (would a rally prepped car be ok? as i have some ralliers in the family).
great looking car Tubthumped!!! looks like it flies! what sorta stuff could i do to a GTi to get some more power? (bearing in mind my mechanical limit is oil change/plugs/ break pads ect with a manual : ) Thanks again lads, like i said, at the moment i know nothing so its nice to get some useful info : ) take care Dave |
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21 Jan 2005, 17:10 (Ref:1206545) | #5 | ||
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Well, it's pretty easy to get 170 bhp from a 2.0 bottom end. Cheap and easy for masses of torque and power.
Brakes can come off a Corrado. Set of Koni Top adjustables and Eibach ARB's and handling will be more than good enough to enjoy around track. A few more minor changes/upgrades and you will be rattling along. |
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MK2 Golf GTI | 2.0 16v | Lightened flywheel | Dave Crisell flowed head | SEAT ABF cams | Flowed throttle body | 183bhp | Helix 4 padel clutch | Helix motorsport Group N pressure plate | Quaife ATB | VW Motorsport 3.94 Final Drive | Hotgolf built gearbox | Spax coilovers | Eibach ARB's | Poly Bushed | Compomotive MO's | Michelin Slicks | 280 brakes | Ferrodo DS3000 pads | Safety Devices roll-cage | OMP Bucket seats |
22 Jan 2005, 14:00 (Ref:1207133) | #6 | ||
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A tarmac-prepped rally car would do just as well.
Theres plenty of Golf engine swaps around, most VR6-powered I think. |
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22 Jan 2005, 14:23 (Ref:1207144) | #7 | ||
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Golf GTi or 205 GTi
Either would be an ideal track day car and would equally be ideal for SPRINTS or HILLCLIMBS!
There are a large number of tarmac prepared cars in the Mod Prod class where in the speed events you can run on slicks! Best of Luck! Last edited by Steve Wilkinson; 22 Jan 2005 at 14:24. |
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Very few track cars end up VR6 powered - too heavy and not enough go. Most seem to go for a 2.0 8v or 2.0 16v. Other options are 1.8 G60 (supercharged), 1.8 20v Turbo (big, big power here) |
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22 Jan 2005, 20:15 (Ref:1207369) | #9 | ||
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Went in my mates Pug gti last week and i was impressed.said hed only paid peanuts for it so maybe worth a look
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23 Jan 2005, 01:28 (Ref:1207533) | #10 | ||
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Alfa 155 2.0 16v TS you can get that for about a grand and its a lot of car for the money.
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24 Jan 2005, 16:00 (Ref:1208645) | #11 | ||
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Go for a bmw E30 325, they can be had for as little as £250 and have 170bhp as standard and RWD and handle beautifully
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24 Jan 2005, 17:07 (Ref:1208696) | #12 | ||
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Little old Golf kicks the E30 M3 ass - so i still vots for the Mk2.
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24 Jan 2005, 17:45 (Ref:1208734) | #13 | ||
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Porsche 944 (from £1500 for an early one (165 Bhp) or £5000 for an S2 (211 Bhp) ) or a 924S (same engine but lighter & narrower body for £1000-1200). Both cars have excellent handling.
There are loads about at places like "PH Sportscars" of Shardlow (near Donington Park) and spares are not a problem. |
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26 Jan 2005, 09:00 (Ref:1210151) | #14 | |
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Cheers Guy's. andy are spares expensive for the porsche?
Anyone have any views on an 205 mi16 conversion? theres one going on ebay for £950 ish. |
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26 Jan 2005, 11:41 (Ref:1210242) | #15 | ||
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Thats about the price sort of price for one - the Mi16 gives the 205 a huge kick up the backside and makes the power-to-weight ratio even more scarey! Go for it if you can afford it.
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26 Jan 2005, 17:20 (Ref:1210492) | #16 | ||
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a nice little video of Donington again - Mk2 Golf 2.0 16v Vs. Pug 205 Mi16
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About a year ago I decided not to buy a 924S that I had seen at PH for reasons that escape me now (but probably due to the fact that I didn't have the bottle to front up to my wife with a 5th car!). I regret it now, though. The car had only done 90 000 miles with FSH but it had had a slight bang at the front. It was avaialble for £950 sold as seen or £1250 repaired and MOT'd!!! Should have bought, it would have made a great track day car! |
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31 Jan 2005, 22:37 (Ref:1214154) | #18 | ||
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Defo the MkII golf gti 16v
Yesterday i got a mkII gti Golf. £475 130k miles a few bits of rust but none structural. stripped it out today very easy. it needs a gear linkage repair. a new oil breather. it went like stink on the way home. will let you know how the first track day goes in march ha ha get one!!!!!!
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3 Feb 2005, 20:41 (Ref:1216872) | #19 | ||
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Just got my hands on a Golf 16v MkII gti goes like stink and cost 475. No rust and plenty of room to enhance performance and handling. Should be fun going through the process. Happy hunting........
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3 Feb 2005, 20:42 (Ref:1216874) | #20 | ||
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Just ignor the last message I must begoing blind and losing my mar-balls!!!!
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