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10 Oct 2001, 04:18 (Ref:158319)
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Racer
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Bennetton to use new engine
Benetton Renault Technical Director Mike Gascoyne revealed that his team will use a new engine for qualifying as his team bids to end a difficult season on a high.
This will make a change from crashing out!!! |
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10 Oct 2001, 12:57 (Ref:158499)
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But wilthis 111 Deg. be any good NEXT year. Would I be naive in thinking "yes"??
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10 Oct 2001, 13:42 (Ref:158522)
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I think Renault may revolutionise engine design in the next couple of years.
The FIA will ban it in about 5!!! |
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10 Oct 2001, 13:44 (Ref:158525)
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Let Mazda (financed by Ford) have a go with a rotary I say!! |
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10 Oct 2001, 14:37 (Ref:158550)
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...and bring back the Ferarri V12!!
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10 Oct 2001, 15:05 (Ref:158571)
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Racer
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Bah. Variation on a theme. Lets have some real innovation. Really change the face of automobile engines. Rotaries are perfectly suited to racing. Smaller, lighter etc. and they rev all the way to the sky!
 Formula one is supposed to represent the pinacle of automotive technology, yet the engines are restricted so much that they are all practically the same. hats off to Renault for at least trying something different. But FIA, why so many restrictions? (I know their reasons, so don't answer that, its rhetorical) |
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10 Oct 2001, 18:48 (Ref:158703)
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Benetton (renault) on an upward F1 cycle
We are all aware that F1 is a cyclical sport - my take (like many others) is that Benetton are on the way up.
It appears that Mike Gascoyne left Jordan because of the greater potential on offer at Benetton or Renault - especially if the engine manufacturers get even more twitchy about sharing their goods. I think time may well prove him right as they get their new 'packages' up and running. I mean look at the way Trulli swerved over to head off the impact of Benetton's launch control at Indy. I think the others are well aware that they are going to have to watch Renault next year. |
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11 Oct 2001, 00:00 (Ref:158911)
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Originally posted by ParkLife
"Formula one is supposed to represent the pinacle of automotive technology, yet the engines are restricted so much that they are all practically the same." Agreed - you are only allowed to build a V10 for one thing. The whole pinnacle of technology argument is farce. If this were true we would have ceramic rotary powered engines or turbin engines as tried by BRM in the sixties driving the wheels through constantly variable transmissions thus doing away with pistons and gearboxes in one fell swoop. As for carbon brakes, they are old hat too - if they used turbine engines they could simply slow down by applying thrust reversers
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11 Oct 2001, 06:36 (Ref:158947)
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My word this new engine works. If you look at the recent Barcelona test - on the first two days, Mark Webber ran the old engine for the first two days for a best time of 1:21.3. On the third day, they plonked the new one in the back and he turned out a 1:19.3 after only 27 laps. A full 2 seconds quicker than the old one, and only half a second slower than Alex Wurz's best of 1:18.8 (after 129 laps) in the McLaren. The only problem with it was that Webber only got to complete 27 laps due to engine problems.
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11 Oct 2001, 10:27 (Ref:158981)
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I think everyone realises that the engine will come right in the end. I don't believe the engine to be the weak link in the team. Everyone was making fun of the engine this year, but seemed to fail to mension that once again they made a cra* car. The engine was not great, and the car was pretty cra*. That was their problem. The engine is going to start getting a lot better, and it's going to do it very fast. The car is the bit they REALLY need to be working hard on.
And as for my comments on the Rotary tech, none of the manufacturers (except maybe ford) would actually go for it. Think of the experience they all have in the field of Reciprocating Pistons, 100's of years worth. What do they have with rotaries? None? EDIT: hmm, censoring the word cra*? What's going on there then? Last edited by ParkLife; 11 Oct 2001 at 10:29. |
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11 Oct 2001, 13:25 (Ref:159068)
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With a great team of people, including Briatore, Gasgoyne, Trulli, and Webber (i missed out button cause i reckon he has gone to ****), i expect great things to come from Benetton. they have done it before, and surely they can do it again. And finally, thanks to the Benetton launch control system, we had a couple of exciting starts for once!
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11 Oct 2001, 21:08 (Ref:159329)
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Racer
Join Date: May 2001
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One way to look at the situation: Renault have always won what ever they've entered. Rallying, Touring Cars, Forumla 1 (engine) etc....
They're Renault Sport division is unrivalled in engineering IMO. |
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