Strange Intersport Observation

WMUCarGuy · 21 Apr 2009, 05:07 (Ref:2446030)

At Long Beach this weekend I went to look at what chassis number Intersport is running this weekend as it had been reported they purchased a new chassis over the off season. They're running in LMP1 this year, but surprisingly, their car is now chassis B05/40 HU08. This is strange for 2 reasons, firstly because they're running what began as an LMP2 chassis in LMP1. I assume they must have just ballasted it up to LMP1 weight. Even stranger though is that that particular chassis is the same one that B-K Motorsports wrote off at Sebring last year. I suppose the chassis has been sent back to Lola and repaired and is now in Intersport's hands in LMP1 guise.

Anyone have anymore insight on this?

WMUCarGuy · 21 Apr 2009, 05:38 (Ref:2446036)

After looking at my Lola chassis registries, it makes sense that they'd ballast up a P2 chassis (as I'd assume Lola is only concerned with building coupe tubs right now). In reality, only 5 LMP1 B06s were built.

HU01 - Swiss Spirit
HU02 - Dyson (Destroyed at PLM '06) => Rebuilt as HU01S => Cytosport => Intersport => Car went with Richard Berry
HU03 - Charouz => Cytosport (Le Mans) => Intersport (Destroyed at PLM '08)
HU06 - Dyson => Intersport (Destroyed at Mosport '08)
HU07 - Chamberlain-Synergy => Autocon

Only the Swiss Spirit car might be available at this point and that one might take a huge amount of work to convert it from Audi to AER, so maybe converting a P2 chassis to P1 made more sense to them?

Graham Goodwin · 21 Apr 2009, 05:43 (Ref:2446038)

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Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

it had been reported they purchased a new chassis over the off season.

It might have been reported - but it wasn't correct

Ryan · 21 Apr 2009, 05:53 (Ref:2446043)

Where do you find the chassis number on the car? I know that there was a Mazda/BP show car at Road America last year. I wonder where that car was from?

WMUCarGuy · 21 Apr 2009, 06:01 (Ref:2446045)

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Originally Posted by Ryan

Where do you find the chassis number on the car? I know that there was a Mazda/BP show car at Road America last year. I wonder where that car was from?

Their show car is an old Courage C65 and the chassis number has been removed, I looked all over on the damn thing at Sebring.

WMUCarGuy · 21 Apr 2009, 06:02 (Ref:2446046)

It does seem odd to me that Swiss Spirit (a 2007 car) is HU01 and Dyson's 2nd car (a 2006 car) is HU06.

WMUCarGuy · 21 Apr 2009, 06:14 (Ref:2446048)

And while we're on the topic of chassis numbers, does anyone know numbers what Racing Box's 2 cars are and 1 of Dysons cars is the ex-BK car, the other is a new car, which is which?

And which of the 2 LMP1 Aston engined cars did Speedy Team Sebah buy?

Dauer 962 · 21 Apr 2009, 06:27 (Ref:2446053)

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Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

It does seem odd to me that Swiss Spirit (a 2007 car) is HU01 and Dyson's 2nd car (a 2006 car) is HU06.

Seams to me your records are not correct.

The 2007 Swiss Spirit chassis is B07/18 HU01, not B06/10 HU1.

Dyson never had B06/10 HU06, this chassis simply doesn’t exit.

WMUCarGuy · 21 Apr 2009, 07:10 (Ref:2446068)

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Originally Posted by Dauer 962

Seams to me your records are not correct.

The 2007 Swiss Spirit chassis is B07/18 HU01, not B06/10 HU1.

Dyson never had B06/10 HU06, this chassis simply doesn’t exit.

I may be wrong, but I think Lola may somewhat have 2 ways they designate cars.

Sometimes it seems as if every chassis is considered 1 model (B05/40 for example) and the HUXX does not reset at the start of a new year and the unique designation describing the engine application is made up later on. Intersports is like this as the tub tag says B05/40 HU08, despite it having been labeled as B07/46 as a BK Mazda.

In other cases, take the Lola Astons, they're listed as B09/60 HU02. That makes no sense in the logic of the first way I mentioned since there have already been 2 B08/60s made, so in theory, the 09 chassis should start as HU03.

It's confusing me quite a bit actually. But to your original point, Dyson's other car would be B06/10 HU01 then and Swiss Spirit would be B07/10 HU/01 with the Audi "18" designation?

So would this be correct then?
B06 HU01 - Dyson => Velocity => Intersport (Destroyed at Mosport '08)
B06 HU02 - Dyson (Destroyed at PLM '06) => Rebuilt as HU01S => Cytosport => Intersport => Car went with Richard Berry
B06 HU03 - Charouz => Cytosport (Le Mans) => Intersport (Destroyed at PLM '08)
B06 HU07 - Chamberlain-Synergy => Autocon
B07 HU01 - Swiss Spirit
B08 HU01 - Charouz
B08 HU02 - Charouz
B09 HU01 - AMR
B09 HU02 - AMR
B09 HU03 - AMR

Just need to know which LMP1 car Speedy Racing bought

MulsanneMike · 21 Apr 2009, 11:03 (Ref:2446218)

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Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

At Long Beach this weekend I went to look at what chassis number Intersport is running this weekend as it had been reported they purchased a new chassis over the off season. They're running in LMP1 this year, but surprisingly, their car is now chassis B05/40 HU08. This is strange for 2 reasons, firstly because they're running what began as an LMP2 chassis in LMP1. I assume they must have just ballasted it up to LMP1 weight. Even stranger though is that that particular chassis is the same one that B-K Motorsports wrote off at Sebring last year. I suppose the chassis has been sent back to Lola and repaired and is now in Intersport's hands in LMP1 guise.

Anyone have anymore insight on this?

Race Car Engineering reported this at Sebring:

*Intersport is using Lola B05/40 chassis HU08 (ex BK Motorsports) adapted to LMP1 spec

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/a...r-preview.html

19dodge · 21 Apr 2009, 13:30 (Ref:2446316)

On the topic of Intersport, I had talked to Clint about this last weekend and he said their tub is NOT the ex-BK car. I had heard about this at Sebring and just never had the time to follow up..

I honestly didn't see the chassis number in person, but you're the second one to tell me that it's HU08..

So the mystery continues..

WMUCarGuy · 21 Apr 2009, 14:34 (Ref:2446348)

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Originally Posted by 19dodge

On the topic of Intersport, I had talked to Clint about this last weekend and he said their tub is NOT the ex-BK car. I had heard about this at Sebring and just never had the time to follow up..

I honestly didn't see the chassis number in person, but you're the second one to tell me that it's HU08..

So the mystery continues..

I saw it with my own eyes this weekend, it's B0540 HU08.

Dauer 962 · 21 Apr 2009, 14:35 (Ref:2446349)

HU08 is correct, but I didn’t took a closer look at Sebring on the designation before. I remember it was very hardly visible, so could be B05/40 but also B06/10……

WMUCarGuy · 21 Apr 2009, 14:46 (Ref:2446355)

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Originally Posted by Dauer 962

HU08 is correct, but I didn’t took a closer look at Sebring on the designation before. I remember it was very hardly visible, so could be B05/40 but also B06/10……

Clear enough for ya?

supermario21 · 21 Apr 2009, 18:49 (Ref:2446504)

With Intersport running basically an upgraded LMP2, do you think that could help their performance on the twisty tracks, rather than a full out B06/10?

NightStalk3r · 21 Apr 2009, 19:00 (Ref:2446513)

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Originally Posted by supermario21

With Intersport running basically an upgraded LMP2, do you think that could help their performance on the twisty tracks, rather than a full out B06/10?

No, its the lower weight of the LMP2's that help in the twisty circuits, there upgraded LMP2 still weighs the same as an LMP1, plus as far as im aware there is little difference between the P1 and P2 tubs.

jc_nl · 21 Apr 2009, 19:08 (Ref:2446523)

Isn't there a difference in wheel base? (not sure but I seem to recall reading about that).

But even if there is a difference between the P1 and P2 car. They probably would have done a full conversion, so it would end up having the P1 wheelbase.

WMUCarGuy · 21 Apr 2009, 19:53 (Ref:2446553)

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Originally Posted by jc_nl

Isn't there a difference in wheel base? (not sure but I seem to recall reading about that).

But even if there is a difference between the P1 and P2 car. They probably would have done a full conversion, so it would end up having the P1 wheelbase.

There is a wheelbase difference, but that difference doesn't come from the tub.

**joeb** · 21 Apr 2009, 21:52 (Ref:2446609)

So if Intersport is entering the car as a B06/10 does that mean the body work is from that model? Was there ever an upgrade to the aero for the B06/10?

Hugewally · 22 Apr 2009, 05:31 (Ref:2446759)

They are not entering the car as a B06/10. Its simply the ex-B-K B05/40 built up and entered in P1.

Félix · 22 Apr 2009, 13:48 (Ref:2447014)

The B05-40 tub is crash-tested for P1 too. I don't know whether they switch front crash boxes or share the same. The body is put over that chassis and evolves every year... plus the P1 front body is wider to accommodate P1 tires.

**joeb** · 22 Apr 2009, 16:27 (Ref:2447114)

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Originally Posted by Hugewally

They are not entering the car as a B06/10. Its simply the ex-B-K B05/40 built up and entered in P1.

My mistake, I just thought since the results from IMSA have their car stated as a B06/10 then that's what it was.

Hugewally · 22 Apr 2009, 16:53 (Ref:2447143)

Sadly, the IMSA sheets have always had mistakes...

**joeb** · 22 Apr 2009, 18:34 (Ref:2447217)

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Originally Posted by Hugewally

Sadly, the IMSA sheets have always had mistakes...

You're right.

I am just happy the car is there filling a grid spot!

ON a related matter, could a team do the opposite of what Intersport did, and actually take a P1 Lola tub and run in P2?

Hugewally · 22 Apr 2009, 20:08 (Ref:2447293)

Yes.

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