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View Poll Results: Should Tom Boardman be driving in the BTCC? | |||
NO he is a prat, and a danger to other drivers | 6 | 27.27% | |
YES (you can post your reasons) >( | 16 | 72.73% | |
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll |
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30 Jul 2001, 11:32 (Ref:123734) | #1 | ||
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Tom Boardman is a prat
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Doesn't anybody else think that Tom Boardman should NOT be driving in the BTCC. He is a danger to the other drivers, and he is a **** driver. Look at Oulton Park, where Peter Cate, in a faster car, drew alongside him into Lodge, and Boardman blatently swerved at him and smashed into his car, damaging it significantly. He also, if a driver is followingclosely, stands on the brakes early, so that driver smashes into him. At Oulton Park, Boardman carried on driving even when he had only two spokes left on one of his alloy wheels. I find it very amusing how most of the other drivers, especially Collard, are starting to give him a hardtime. e.g. at Silverstone, Collard was following Boardnman on a qualifying lap, but Boardman would nt get out the way (purposefully of course), so the next time Collard came round, Boardman had disppeared and he was in the gravel over the other side of the circuit. Boardman is a complete arse, can't drive to save his life, and he also pays the BBC so the commentators praise him no end, even when he drives like acomplete moron (i.e. all the time). The prat should be kicked out the sport all together. Alex ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- http://acrf1.moonfruit.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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30 Jul 2001, 12:09 (Ref:123762) | #2 | ||
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I think he ought to go elsewhere until he's learnt some on-track manners. I've been astonished and appalled at some of the moves he's pulled on people - and I've seen him "shoulder" people off at least twice, for example - without ever seeming to incur any penalty, or even comment from trackside, TV or magazine commentators.
I'm sure he's a very nice bloke, and the team are great too, but it must be costing them a fortune in spares - not to mention the damage he's caused to others. Stock cars might suit him. |
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30 Jul 2001, 16:05 (Ref:123842) | #3 | ||
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I disagree. I think that he's done a fine job in the production class, he's driven very well, and yes there has been some dodgy shunts 'n' bumps with other production drivers, but that's the very nature of the sport. I believe that there's a big difference in punting another driver off and contact being a racing incident. I don't feel that he's driven any differently from any of the other production drivers.
yesthere's been contact, but that's the point of the sport. Cate was not exactly Mr innocent of the thruxton round. I'm not a Tom Boardman fan, nor an enemy of any driver, but i feel that he's achieved some great results, and i'm not just saying that cos he's a young lad,but because he's shown some great talent in his young career so far. Touring car is not stock car racing, but there is bound to be some contact. We cannot expect a grid of over 20 cars to follow each other in circle too frightened to take a chance, make a move or a dive up the inside, which is what he's done. no different from any other driver. |
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30 Jul 2001, 17:35 (Ref:123863) | #4 | |
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Tom is a very talented guy who does a very good job much of the time. However, he needs to review some of his driving standards - he's not driving in Ministox anymore, afterall... the red mist certainly does seem to descend sometimes - or maybe daddy is shouting down the pit to car radio at him...?
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30 Jul 2001, 18:09 (Ref:123889) | #5 | |
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I'll let this one go for now but you might want to consider the tone of your post. Suggestions that money has changed hands between TBR and BBC, for example, is potentially libeleous, unless you have some evidence to back up those claims. I know that Charlie Cox likes Tom but I wouldn't say his comments on TV have been particular full of praise.
To respond to a few of your points are you saying that's OK for Collard to push Tom off during qualifying but not OK for Tom to run into anyone else? Sounds like double standards to me. At times Collard himself has been blatent with his weaving (Brands for example). Tom is a hard racer, but so are many other drivers. What is apparant is that his car isn't quite up to the job so he's having to over-drive it and is getting bogged down in the mid-field. |
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30 Jul 2001, 18:46 (Ref:123918) | #6 | ||
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Without doubt to me TB is a potential star of the future. He just needs more experience and learning the ways of the BTCC. I can see another potential Thommo in him, he's certainly got the talent.
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30 Jul 2001, 19:08 (Ref:123940) | #7 | |
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Could be good in Nascar - he's certainly not to be intimidated! You could have a good point about the car not being up yo it and him overdriving, but perhaps he does need to realise that he needs to look after the car for it to look after him too...
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30 Jul 2001, 20:23 (Ref:123981) | #8 | ||
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Good point there Craig. It's not just the driving fast it's the looking after the car and tyres.
What you have to remember is he is just a kid. He has probably never had a really bad crump so he feels he is invincible and will take risks. He has matured some this year and hopefully will continue to do so. Maybe he needs to be 'taken under the wing' of someone - maybe as part of a two car team - that would help. I also believe he will make the grade. |
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30 Jul 2001, 22:16 (Ref:124048) | #9 | ||
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Tom is a very impressive driver, and I don't believe there is too much of a problem with his driving standards. Ok, so perhaps he needs to calm down just a little, but he is a serious future star, and even better, he is exciting to watch in the car.
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31 Jul 2001, 17:02 (Ref:124413) | #10 | ||
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I think he's done a good job so far this season. In T-cars he was never this physical, so I would blame this on the pressure of racing in such an important series.
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1 Aug 2001, 01:33 (Ref:124547) | #11 | ||
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I don't think Tom should be out there at the moment. The battle he had with Cate at Oulten was pretty bad on his behalf and then accusing Collard i think it was of putting him off at Copse was pretty dumb. i think he could do well in the future but needs more experience.
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20 Aug 2001, 23:43 (Ref:133414) | #12 | ||
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fair enough some of this is people's opinion, and they're allowed to have one. but some of the rubbish posted here is actually quite hurtful and not true.
Last edited by Tom B; 20 Aug 2001 at 23:45. |
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21 Aug 2001, 00:16 (Ref:133425) | #13 | ||
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I will second that.
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21 Aug 2001, 00:22 (Ref:133428) | #14 | ||
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Ditto.
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21 Aug 2001, 05:55 (Ref:133522) | #15 | ||
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As you can tell by the poll most people do not believe Alex's comment either.
You just carry on Tom learning your craft and you are going to go far. It's a pity you had such a foul weekend at Croft. Good luck at Oulton Park and save me a lollypop please!! |
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21 Aug 2001, 06:27 (Ref:133537) | #16 | ||
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Of course Tom will make mistakes, but he is not the only one!
I've seen some brilliant moves by Tom and his committment into some corners is fantastic, many so called experienced drivers would never get get round the corner. Toms car control if fantastic there is no doubt!! Kelvin |
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21 Aug 2001, 08:32 (Ref:133588) | #17 | ||
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I would like to second whay Kelvin said, Tom's car control is terrific, his style can be a little.....well, "determined" at times, but I think he adds a lot to the series and added to that he's a nice bloke. There is bound to be contact in the championship, and perhaps some of it could be avoidable, but it isn't only in the production category that it happens, in fact one of our cars had its side taken out at Snetterton while being lapped by one of the Touring class cars, I'm not blaming anyone, just illustrating the fact that even under those circumstances, damage can happen.
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21 Aug 2001, 10:05 (Ref:133611) | #18 | ||
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If Tom's driving was out of order, the Clerk of the Course would have had his licence by now.
The attitude of some of these posts surprises me, the guy is young and a little inexperienced, but undoubtedly is putting in some good performances and deserves to be in the Championship. He certainly doesn't deserve the slating he has got here and a few people here should crawl back under their rocks. This topic should end here. RickP |
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21 Aug 2001, 10:40 (Ref:133617) | #19 | ||
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I have already suggested to the webmaster that this thread is closed. It is not really suitable for a 'family fun' forum.
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21 Aug 2001, 20:46 (Ref:133880) | #20 | |
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I considered deleting this thread when it first appeared but decided to let it ride (see my previous comments). You may not agree with the original posters comments (and personally I do not) but that's no reason to delete the thread. In fact one of my reasons for letting the thread continue is that I suspected the majority of forum members would disagree with the comments and would support Tom. Reading through the posts again that's pretty much what has happened.
One thing I find interesting is that the original poster can provide no evidence to back up such wild allegations, and indeed has not posted any message other since. That for me says all I need to know. Tom, don't take these things to heart. As I've said already, the majority of people here DO support you. |
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21 Aug 2001, 21:57 (Ref:133925) | #21 | ||
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hear hear.
I just hope Tom pops back in and realises that for himself! |
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21 Aug 2001, 22:09 (Ref:133934) | #22 | ||
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Thanks guys. Nice to know i'm doing something right this year.
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21 Aug 2001, 22:24 (Ref:133944) | #23 | |
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Tom, I believe that a future BTC-T Champion posted before me, and I'm not just saying that.
I've often thought that some other drivers in the BTC-P have tried to push you out the way because your the new boy. |
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22 Aug 2001, 05:44 (Ref:134056) | #24 | ||
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So Tom, is the car all fixed and you raring to go this weekend?
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22 Aug 2001, 11:38 (Ref:134190) | #25 | ||
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I think Tom is lovely and always has time to talk to you when you see him. He could be really full of himself - to find himself in his position at his age - but he isn't - he is just pleased to be there and doing what he loves.
I said at the start of the croft meeting that there were two guys I would love to see win a production race. One was Jim Edwards Jnr - who did just that at Croft, and the other one was Tom. So come on Tom, give us something to cheer about at Oulton - and Les and I will defeafen everyone in the vicinity with our screams and airhorn - like we did for Jim. Anyone in a nervous disposition - should not go near the inside of cascades on Sunday...... |
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