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Old 9 Nov 2001, 17:24 (Ref:172558)   #1
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Glen should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridGlen should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridGlen should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Reliabity numbers

2001; highest total number of laps completed; top six:

1. Ferrari (1924 out of a possible 2130 laps (total of all 17 races))
2. Prost
3. Benetton
4. McLaren
5. BAR
6. Jordan

Fastest car with worst reliabilty has got to be the Williams then, surely? Mclaren not much better.

I didn't work this out, by the way. I'm only sad enough to have read it in a news story and recycled it!
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Old 9 Nov 2001, 22:41 (Ref:172758)   #2
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Of course this will be biased in favour of the teams that did well at the high speed tracks (Monza, Spa and Hockenheim have only 143 laps between them), but went out earlier at Monaco and Hungaroring, the slwoer tracks (155 laps between the two). But Prost's reliability was amazing, especially when Alesi was in the team. I think WIlliams completed less laps than anyoen. Another thought- isn't it interesting that even with a reliable 2000 engine, Sauber did less laps than BAR or Jordan despite outscoring both?
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Old 9 Nov 2001, 23:06 (Ref:172770)   #3
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Alesi only had one DNF all year and that was when he was collected by Raikkonen at Suzuka, not bad at all.
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Old 9 Nov 2001, 23:14 (Ref:172776)   #4
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finishing almost all the races and having won just 4 points, one cant help wonder at prost....
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Old 10 Nov 2001, 00:03 (Ref:172794)   #5
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Well, Prost showed how you can make a sow's ear out of a silk purse.
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Old 10 Nov 2001, 10:28 (Ref:172863)   #6
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Alesi only had one DNF all year and that was when he was collected by Raikkonen at Suzuka, not bad at all.
And what about the Nurburgring, where he spun off (driver's error) while driving in 11th position?
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Old 10 Nov 2001, 10:58 (Ref:172867)   #7
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True I forgot about that one but he was classified as a finisher as it was near the end.
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Old 10 Nov 2001, 10:59 (Ref:172869)   #8
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I suppose he was sufficiently near the finish to get classified for it.
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Old 11 Nov 2001, 22:04 (Ref:173436)   #9
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He completed 64 of the 67 laps...as per FIAs Sporting Regulations (see paragraph, 168) he made it:

CLASSIFICATION
166) The car placed first will be the one
having covered the scheduled distance in the
shortest time, or, where appropriate, passed
the Line in the lead at the end of two hours. All
cars will be classified taking into account the
number of complete laps they have covered,
and for those which have completed the same
number of laps, the order in which they
crossed the Line.
167) If a car takes more than twice the
time of the winner's fastest lap to cover its last
lap this last lap will not be taken into account
when calculating the total distance covered by
such car.
168) Cars having covered less than 90%
of the number of laps covered by the winner
(rounded down to the nearest whole number of
laps), will not be classified.
169) The official classification will be
published after the race. It will be the only valid
result subject to any amendments which may
be made under the Code and these Sporting
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Old 11 Nov 2001, 22:20 (Ref:173440)   #10
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Not to quibble but reliability, where it counts can only mean races completed.

Ferrari completed 90.3% of all laps and most races. Let's assume that another car/team would have consistently broken down in all races during the last five laps. This would have given it better lap reliability than the red things....and a total of Zero Points. Would that menan that they had better reliability than Ferrari?

Has anyone tabulated reliability in terms of races finished?

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Old 11 Nov 2001, 22:50 (Ref:173450)   #11
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And i can take it another step....reliability generally refers to the car not having a systems failure (the machine itself, let's not include the breathing one...), so could Alesis spin be deemed "unreliability"? I know, I know.... then we would have to come up with a whole new set of numbers for those who did not even get "classified" as a finisher, as they might NOT have had "unreliability" either..... shhheeeesssshhhhh!!!!
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Old 12 Nov 2001, 03:34 (Ref:173508)   #12
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No sense...

I don not like the number like this...

What do these mean?.. No sense

If you want to compare the teams you must look for the recent years's porformance graphs...

May be you like numbers which tell about history of F1 but infact these are not effective in performance comparing (in my view)...

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2001; highest total number of laps completed; top six:

1. Ferrari (1924 out of a possible 2130 laps (total of all 17 races))
2. Prost
3. Benetton
4. McLaren
5. BAR
6. Jordan

Fastest car with worst reliabilty has got to be the Williams then, surely? Mclaren not much better.

I didn't work this out, by the way. I'm only sad enough to have read it in a news story and recycled it!
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