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Jim Hall wasn't the first with overhead variable angle of attack wing
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Franklin! Its been a long time. You still on the LSR is better than anything else kick?
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Franklin! I knew I had met him before but I just could not remember his name!
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You're right, It was Michael May in 1956:
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/history.htm May's wing featured a driver adjustable angle of attack (just like Hall's nearly 10+ years later). Interestingly enough, May's wing can be considered even more developed than what Hall showed up with in that May's featured wing endplates. |
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Hello, Franklin
Again you are over-simplifying things. As KRT917 says, the requirements for a LSR car in a straight line and a road racing car going round corners and on undulating tracks are completely different. Admittedly some of the first F1 cars with wings did break their struts. Quite simply the designers failed to allow fully for the combination of the aerodynamic downforce, lateral inertia loads and dynamic enhancement loads. I suppose it's a bit like the Tacoma Narrows Bridge or the Tay Bridge for that matter, when engineers move well beyond the bounds of proven technology and their predictions are sometimes wrong. Surely the first use of wings to keep a car on the deck was the Opel rocket car in the twenties? |
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Spot on for the first use. But May's was adjustable while the car was in motion and is the first use of that device. |
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The pic I linked to in the third post in this thread was a Mercedes at Le Mans in practice in 1952. It was an air brake that folded up so it was flat when running down a straight but tipped up into the position shown for maximum srag under braking. It was found to improve the cars grip in cornering.
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