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27 Feb 2004, 18:00 (Ref:1563406) | #1 | ||
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In response to popular demand by Dan R, here's a thread for later Chevron Atlantics and F2s to consolidate existing discussions.
To kick things off: B35s 35.76.01 BMW 1976: Trivatello for Willy Lovato. 1977: possibly the car used by Andy Barton at the first G8 race at Mallory, otherwise unknown 35.76.02 BMW 1976: Trivatello for Roberto Marazzi. 1977: Trivatello for Patrese 35.76.03 1976: ROC for Jean -Pierre Jaussaud with Chrysler engine. 1977 Andre Chevalley 35.76.04 Hart: 1976 Opert for Pryce and Harald Ertl. 1977: Obermoser for Ertl 35.76.05 Hart. 1976: Opert for Juan Cochesa and Hans Binder. 1977: Opert for Rosberg and Hans Royer 35.76.06 Hart. 1976: Opert for Jose Dolhem, Rupert Keegan [Macau GP] 1977 Steve Millen. 1978 Destroyed in testing accident by new owner. 35.76.07 BMW. 1976: Hohmann Autotechnik for Manfred Schurti. 1977: Unknown 35.76.08 BMW. 1976: Gianfranco Trombetti, retained 1977 then sold to Lorenzo Niccolini 35.76.09 Chrysler: 1976: ROC for Jean-Pierre Jaussaud 35.76.10 BDX. Bob and Marj Brown for Bobby Muir; 1977: Iain McLaren, retained 1978 then sold to Bernard Hunter in July. 1979: George McMillan 35.76.11 Chrysler [unusual as Chevron didn't normally build 11] ROC for Xavier Lapeyre 35.76.12 Hart Probably Teddy Yip for Patrick Tambay in Far East. Retained 1977 35.76.14 BMW: Works for Rolf Stommelen/Hans Binder, taken to Japan for Jacques Laffite [Japanese GP] probably stayed there for Kuniomi Nagmatsu [1977] and Keiji Matsumoto [1978] 35.76.15 BMW Opert late season for Jochen Mass. 1977 maybe to Werner Ruckelshausen |
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Can't remember now if I disputed the fate of #6 with you on an earlier occasion, Chris. But:
In 1983 I had a session with Dave Schollum, one of the Singapore-based NZ brothers who owned the cars Millen raced at that time. My quest was to find out what had happened to the various Schollum/Millen Chevrons. He was quite clear that the B35 was then (1983) in Asia |
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28 Feb 2004, 00:51 (Ref:1563408) | #3 | ||
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Chris.
B35-76-05, as advised somewhere else, now with Chris Farrell in OZ. According to Chris, sold early 1977 , unknown through to Sept. 1982. Thence to Weylock Racing for Aurora Series F2 class Drv. Alan Tullock , BDG eng. Feb. 1987 to Richard Simms , with a Skoda body in special saloons, BDG eng. May 1990 , sold to Milldent Motorsport. Dec. 1990 , sold to Chris Farrell , car restored by Ken Thorogood. To OZ shortly after , and retained , fitted with Hart 420R. Bryan. |
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I seem to have started this thread indirectly.
Re the Millen B35-76-06 Steve Millen confirmed it was the Macau ex Opert car. Apparently it had a heavier FG400 gearbox, putting the car about a 100lb over tha Atlantic weight limit. No other information. |
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Bryan, re B35-76-05, not at all aure about Chris Farrell's information. I don't recall Allan Tulloch with such a car, and by 82, Aurora F2 was long gone. Did Tulloch have a B38 F3 car at one time ISTR ?
I'd be surprised if it was under a Richard Simms Skoda Superloon. Simms did have one, I thought it was a B23 or similar 2-litre sportscar, not an F2 tub. Most such Skodas of the late 70s were built on Gp6 sportsracers, not single seaters, though I believe Pat Thomas's Esprit did have some B35 parts in it. Any thoughts Jeremy/Chris ? Chris, on the Barton Mallory G8 race in early 77, the Marazzi car rings a very very vague bell with me, B35-76-02????? Wonder why Andy B didn't buy it, he got the Sana later that year I remember. Perhaps the B35 was a bit costly ? |
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2 Mar 2004, 15:43 (Ref:1563411) | #6 | ||
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One of Simms' Skodas, I think his second, was based on Bob Marsland's B23. I also thought his first was sports-based, but I've got nothing to hand about it. I was also confused by 1982 Aurora, but can't offer an alternative. I only remember Tulloch from British F3 in the mid80s |
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Jeremy, we agree on this at least ! Am I right on Tulloch in a B38, its purely off the top of the head at present? I also recall the aforementioned Chris Farrell in a B38, run by Docking as I recall - Ausonia Docking was I think the entrant. What was that I wonder ?
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Moving this on a bit, anyone remember the ex-Ago/Voxson B42? I think Ken Brill used it a bit in Aurora in 79, after damaging the ex-Kim/Villeneuve B34D. Where did it go after Brill. He was never a star was he ...
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2 Mar 2004, 17:35 (Ref:1563414) | #9 | ||
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Not sure on Tuloch, I only remember him in Ralts, but you may be right. Brill did use the ex-Ago B42, chassis 14, just the one Aurora race at Mallory I think, but don't know where it went from there. |
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3 Mar 2004, 12:30 (Ref:1563415) | #10 | ||
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Properly speaking discussion of the Agostini - Brill car should be on the B40-45 thread... But let's not have that here. I think Brill was the slowest driver I ever saw in a race car [tho. Otto Stuppacher in his March 761 was close] you could have lapped him in an FF2000. Anyway, here are Chevron B40 and 42 summaries to spark further debate: Chevron B42 Chassis 1: 1977: Works: Patrese (Japanese GP) 1978: Steve Millen (NZ) retained 1979; 1980 Bob Donaldson Chassis 2: Works ICI: Riccardo Patrese/Derek Daly; 1979 perhaps to John Stokes (Described in 1980 ad as ex Daly); 1981 Patsy McGarrity Chassis 3: Trivatello: Beppe Gabbiani Chassis 4: Harald Ertl->Willi Siller (unraced) 1979: Willi Siller Chassis 5: John David Briggs; 1979: Brian Robinson; 1980: Bob Howlings; 1981: Bob Howlings [though AS gives as 01 at Silverstone F2]; 1982: Stuart MacPherson [FL] Chassis 6: Opert: Boy Hayje Chassis 7: Everest: Elio de Angelis; unknown to 1981, then Bill Lord [Scotland] Chassis 8: Works ICI: Derek Daly/Nigel Mansell; 1979: perhaps to Gary Gibson (FAt) (described in press as ex Daly) retained to 1981 Chassis 9: Works ICI: Jochen Mass/Patrick Tambay/Arturo Merzario/Giancarlo Martini/Jean-Pierre Jaussaud/Harald Ertl [Hockenheim]/My Aunt Edna; 1979: Germaine Garon/Herv é Regout Chassis 10: Briggs: Don Briedenbach [F1R attribution but maybe the Cinotti car] Chassis 11: Chevron didn’t usually build an 11 [but might be Cinotti’s car if 10 really does go to Briggs] Chassis 12: Opert: Eje Elgh Chassis 14: Trivatello: Giacomo Agostini; 1979 Ken Brill Chassis 15: Opert: Keijo Rosberg; 1979: Phil Bennett then to Dave Rackham (FAt); 1980: David Mercer (FAt) retained 1981 then at some point to Antonia Loysen [FL] Chassis 16: Briggs: John David Briggs; 1979: Warren Booth; 1980: Jim Evans Chassis 17: Briggs; 1979 Brian Robinson retained to 1981 Chassis 18: Jack Kallay: Geoff Lees Chassis 19: Briggs; 1979: Tony Dean/Brian Robinson; 1980: Brian Robinson Said to be 21 built so these problem cars could be accommodated there: Tomy Racing: Masahiro Hasemi [late season car, retained 1979] Sandro Cinotti [debuts mid season after using a B40. May be the B40 updated; may be 10; 11 or a later number] 1979 Wayne Wainwright [British Atlantic] John Stokes (Described in 1980 ad as ex Daly) 1980 Kiyoshi Misaki [appears Suzuka F.Pac with Toyota engine Dave McMillan [appears Suzuka FPac with Nissan engine DNS] Chevron B40 Chassis 1 Hart 420R: 1977: Works/Ardmore/ICI: Ray Mallock/Patrick Tambay/Guy Edwards/Brian Henton Chassis 2-BMW M12: 1977: Trivatello: Riccardo Patrese [taken to Japanese GP late season and won] 1978: F1R say Roloil: Sandro Cinotti [I wonder why didn’t the car stay in Japan? Chassis 3-Chrysler: 1977: ROC : Michel Pignard Chassis 4-Chrysler: 1977: ROC: Jean-Pierre Jaussaud; 1978: Sc. Everest [BMW engine]: Gianfranco Brancatelli/Giancarlo Martini/Miguel-Angel Guerra/Clay Regazzoni Chassis 5-Hart 420R: Opert: Wink Bancroft Chassis 6-Hart 420R: Opert: Keijo Rosberg; 1978: Opert: Alain Prost Chassis 7-BMW M12: 1977: Trivatello: Lamberto Leoni; 1978: Sc. Everest [Ferrari engine]: Elio de Angelis Chassis 8-Hart 420R: 1977: Opert: Jacques Laffite/Gregg Young; unknown to 1980 then Ron Harper Chassis 9-Nissan: Probably Kojima: Masahiro Hasemi [BMW engine late season]; 1979: Tomy Racing for Hasemi Chassis 10-BMW M12: Probably Keiji Matsumoto; 1978 maybe used by Fumiyasi Satoh for F.Pacific Chassis 11 Not built Chassis 12- BMW: Probably for Tetsu Ikuzawa, retained 1979 Chassis 14-BMW: KWS Autotechnik: Klaus Ludwig; 1978: KWS: Rudi Deutsch (perhaps rented to Helmut Bross for Wolfgang Locher at Nurburgring F2) then sold to Iain McLaren [appears Mallory 30.7 G8]. For sale as chassis 14 A.S. 8.3.79 in UK, '5 races from new' but a subsequent also says it's ex Iain McLaren; See also MN 'Bob Leckie, Chevron B40, the ex Iain McLaren car' 26.7.79 p.9 Problem cars 1979: Kojima: Masahiro Hasemi [FPac] Matusmoto and Satoh probably run in the same team with a B40-BMW which may also be swapped for a Nissan engine for Pacific races, or there is another B40 with a Toyota in the team for 1978 onwards. 1979: Harada: Noritake Takahara 1979: Speed Star: Masao Segawa 1979: Nico Nicole (Japan) 1979: Vicic: Patrese spare JAF GP 1979: Phoenix: Brian Henton [Suzuka 5.3; Lamberto Leoni Fuji 3.5; Ghinzani Suzuka 21.5; Masami Kuwashima [Suzuka 2.7] 1979: Phoenix: Larry Perkins [Fuji 3.5; Gabbiani Suzuka 21.5; Naohiro Fujita [Suzuka 2.7]Patrick Gaillard Phoenix had two cars in 79 and there's no certainty that the Gabbiani car wasn't that used by Henton etc. BMW engine [debut 20.8.78 Salzburgring] Werner Ruckelshausen Albert Poon [F. Pacific] probably a B39 1979: Paul Gibson 1980: Kazuyoshi Hoshino [Suzuka FPac: Nissan engine] 1980: Fumio Moto [Suzuka FPac: Nissan engine] 1980: Fumiyasi Sato [Suzuka FPac: Toyota engine] |
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3 Mar 2004, 13:38 (Ref:1563416) | #11 | ||
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Chris, probably going over old ground here from the "Other Chevrons" thread, but...
B42-02, did Patrese use this one in 78? I'd thought he was largely out of Euro F2 at the end of 77. Also, which ICI car did de Angelis have from mid-78 on, after he'd left Everest, -8 perhaps ? I agree there seemed to be a good few 'ex-Daly/ICI' cars in UK in 79. The Stokes/Wainwright B42 in UK Atlantic 79, I think they only had 1 car between them, owned by JS I thought. I still think Briggs only had 4 in 78, don't believe F1R is right on no 10, so maybe Cinotti had this one after all. On B40s, the Paul Gibson car is a new one on me. I had him in Clubmans to 1980, when he gets the ex Dickson 792. I wonder if he perhaps borrowed the Mclaren car, I presume you have a MN/AS report noting him in a B40. Pretty recently I recall Simon Hadfield in a B40 in Derek Bell Trophy, maybe the ex-Harper/Rosberg one ?? Back to Mr Brill, didn't he have a Lotus 69 in some Libre races prior to his Aurora adventures ? When you say lap him in an FF2000, after how many laps would that be !!! |
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Apologies for continuing with B42s, but Loysen was driving /15 in the mid-80s, and Terry Murphy had it by the time of the HSCC Chevron meeting at Donoington in July 1990. Bill Gowdy was also driving 08 at this meeting. Peter Taylor drove a B42 in some 1985-86 Libre races, I think this was the ex-McPherson 05. |
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There was a B40 rolling chassis that has just been sold in Japan, alledgedly chassis 07, formerly Nissan powered and originally driven by Masahiro Hasemi. I didn't get the buyers name. You had him down for 09 but the seller's say 07. |
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Thanks for that. My only source for B40 no. 7 as a European car at the start of its life is F1R, who are unreliable on F2 in that period. So, it could be that 7 was the original Hasemi car. However, equally possible is that the car eventually made its way to Japan after a couple of seasons in Europe and became the basis for Hasemi's B40 in F. Pacific racing, meaning that Hasemi used two different B40s at different times. My attribution of chassis 9 to Hasemi as the Kojima car is based on there being three vacant numbers in the build series [ie cars not raced in Europe] and three Japanese B40s from new. Kojima's was the first to appear, hence the first vacant number. I'll do some more digging! Chris |
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Time to restart this one.
I'm just getting G8 1978 ready to put up on ORC and Jeremy, who has contributed the results, has 35.76.01 as Barton's car at Mallory and Oulton in March/April 1977. Is this now certain? Chris had it as a 'possibly' at the beginning of this thread but I recall that Dan reached some conclusions on this car elsewhere. Allen |
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The problem is this: 35-01 and 02 go to Trivatello. F1R notes 01 as Lovato's car and 02 as Marazzi's in 1976. 02 appears as Patrese's car early 77 according to F1R. This car destroyed in big accident at Nurburgring. [Though being ex Patrese probably now exists in at least 4 authentic versions through imaginative use of screws.] MN Feb 77 says ex Marazzi car sold to Barton Car destroyed Ingliston: AS 12.5.77 p. 55 Now, either F1R is wrong in assuming 01 to be Lovato's car all season in 76, having observed it at one British round [and that wouldn't be a first...] and Marazzi used it, or MN is wrong in calling the Barton car ex Marazzi and it's just a Trivatello chassis.[One of us cannot be wrong, to quote the great Leonard Cohen] I think we could say that Barton's 77 car is 01 and Patrese's 02 and that both have effectively ceased to be by the end of May 77 Chris |
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From what I recall, the Barton car was ex-Marazzi, so I suggest we go with Chris' version, ie we don't believe F1R on this matter. Isn't it good to see some interesting threads on here again !!
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Did Andy B use a B40 for a time in 1978, and destroy it too, or am I dreaming things?? If he did, was it the one Harper got later, ie -08 ?
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Not sure if this is the right place for this given the different Chevron threads but it appears that Riccardo Patrese's European F3 Championship winning B34 is alive and well.
I was recently contacted by someone who had bought chassis 06 which was later driven by Piercarlo Ghinzani. According to Riccardo this car was sold to Ghinzani after it won the Euro F3 title at Vallelunga, and was then used by Piercarlo to race Riccardo at the final round of the Italian F3 championship at Magione, which Riccardo won. Where the car has been since I'm not sure if anyone knows? |
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Don't have much on B34s as far as I can see so I'll drop this here. Kit Henry is advertising on ebay two B34s, chassis 9 and chassis 35. Described as follows:
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B34s a quick summary
76-02 1976: Tony Martin [SA] retained 1977; 1978 Evan Boddy [SA] 76-03 1976: Bill Brack for S.A series and then to Guy Tunmer [SA] 76-06 1976: Trivatello for Patrese [based on above info] 76-08 1976: Basil van Rooyen [SA] retained to at least 1978 when used by Desire Wilson 76-09 1976: Bill Scott Racing for Holmes [based on Henry sales information] However, Holmes burned out a car in an electrical fire at Laguna Seca in April, and it was replaced with a new car in May [which would probably have a higher build number than this, so I reckon 09 is the first Holmes car rebuilt] 76-12 1976: Fred Opert team car, drivers unknown, spare car in NZ 1977 76-19 1976: Fred opert team car for Juan Cochesa, Rosberg in NZ 1977 then to Norm Lankshear and then Bryan Hartley 76-20 1976: "Used in US Atlantic" but not known which driver, used by Del Schloemer in SEA from 1979 76-21 1976 Opert team car; first noted on Eddie Marcello's car at Philipines GP, then to Pocholo Ramirez 1977 76-24 1976: Works F3 car for Lees, appears June. If so then either F3 1977 with KWS team and then David Brotherston [AS describes Schlesser's 77 B34 as ex Lees] OR John Lewis [F3 1977] and then the basis of Richard Parsons's Atlantic car in Ireland. [Also called ex Lees] [I think that this car might have been the "development" B34 used by Crawford in 76 G8 as Lewis was a Chevron mechanic] This number also on B34 for sale a few years back in NE USA 76-25 Opert team car for Tambay and perhaps Smiley. Kozarowitzky in 1977 NZ series tehn to Narcisco de la Merced 76-27 KWS for Rudi Dotsch retained 1977 76 -37 Albert Poon 76-35 Paul Henry The unknown cars are legion! Chris |
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Unknown B34s
Atlantic Bobby Brown [delivered Feb 76] Bill Anspach [actually to FC spec, delivered Feb] Bill Brack [delivered March] Bill Scott for Crawley/Gerber [delivered March] Ken Duclos Kevin Cogan [delivered April] Lloyd Callaway Robert Nelkin Scott [Holmes replacement car] Gilles Leger Rick Bell Marcel Talbot Opert must have had at least one, and probably two more cars. F3 Fernando Spreafico [Trivatello] Rupert Keegan [July] KWS second car Chris |
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B34-76-37 , two letters , one from Albert Poon and another from Chevron Cars [ Roger Andreasson ]. Chevron say built for Poon , probably last B34 done and del. circa July 1976 , colour yellow. Albert Poon advises same , used all over S.E.Asia and N.Z. Stuvyesant Series, nil accidents in Poon's hands , sold as he was taking delivery of new B42 [ which he says was no where near as good a car]. Came to Western Australia 1979 to Peter Nicol till end 1980 , thence 1980-1982 Peter Morris [ W.A. ] 1982-1994 Jim Runciman [ W.A. ] 1994-1998 to Richard Fearon [ Victoria] , to Noel Robson [ Victoria ]end 1998 , thence to Current owner Peter Mohr of [ now] Queensland. Kevin Bartlett told me this is the car he drove one year at Macau. Bryan. |
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