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3 Jan 2007, 20:48 (Ref:1805514) | #1 | ||
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Just wondering what country evryone thinks is currently the most prominent and succesful in sports car racing. Sort of like a power rankings but for countries, both in cars and teams. For Cars we have:
France - Peugot, Pescarolo and Courage all contenders in the top class. Courage also strong in P2. Not much in the GTs though. England- Zytek, Lola, Creation provide very strong cars in P1. Lola and Radical in P2. In GT1 Aston Martin has had sucess. Judd and AER engines have ruled Privateer engine choices. United States- Not much happening on the American protoype scene. Corvettes have had sucess both in America and Europe and Saleens mostly in Europe in GT1. Panoz cars gaining momentum in GT2. Italy- No Italian protoype sucess as of late but Maserati has basically dominated FIA GT and the F430 was probably the strongest GT2 car last year. Germany- Audi domination in P1, Porsche contention in both P2 and GT2. Lack of BMW and Mercedes support hurts. Japan- Dome now racing in both P1 and P2. Mugen engine for Swiss Spirit last year, Should the Acura program be considered Japanes or American?? Teams: France, Pescarolo Courage, Peugot, Bruneu, Barazi, Larbre, Oreca, Belmondo, Luc Alphand, Matmut England -Creation, Zytek, Lister, Chaimberlian, RML, Rollcentre, Prodrive, LNT, Chad, Bruichladdich, Cirtek, Ecosse United States- Dyson, Champion, Corvette(P&M), PWL, Autocon, Highcroft, Penske, AGR, PTG, Tafel, Lizards, Intersport, Binnie, Risi Italy- GPC, Autorlando, AF Corse, BMS, Ebimotors Germany- Joest, Pheonix, Vitaphone, Zakspeed I'm sure I've missed a whole lot of quality cars and teams I just wanted a general idea. How would you rank these major players in the world of sportscar racing? |
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Italy -don't forget ATR
England - fair few Hewland/Xtrac boxes out there, plenty of engines, chassis, teams Japan - Not a lot of the Acura project comes out of Japan, chassis are French and English, engines are built in the US I believe. Germany - Audi chassis are built in Italy, don't know about Porsche Top dog for me - England. |
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Many Prototypes in the US racing in Grand AM
Chase Competition Engineering LLC 420 Decatur Street Richmond, VA 23224 Website: www.chasecompetition.com Crawford Race Cars Denver, NC 28037 Website:www.crawfordcomposites.com Doran Designs Lebanon, OH 45036 Website: www.doranracing.com FABCAR Carmel, IN 46032 Website: www.fabcar-usa.com Multimatic Markham, ON L3R 5E5 Canada Website: multimaticmotorsports.com Riley Technologies Speedway, IN 46224 Website: www.rileytech.com Italy Picchio 64010 Ancarano (TE), Italy Website: www.picchio.com Source: http://www.grand-am.com/DaytonaProto...uctorsPage.asp |
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3 Jan 2007, 23:03 (Ref:1805646) | #4 | ||
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Radical must do well based on the fact they have a series where everyone races Radicals.
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Yeah, obviously I was talking about the 3 major international sports car racing series. No need to bring second tier national series into the discussion.
That being said, I'd agree that the British are probably to dog right now. |
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4 Jan 2007, 13:28 (Ref:1806159) | #7 | |
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Someone's travelling down a dangerous road...lets say ACO/FIA series...
Pilbeam is UK, isn't it (I stand to be corrected), Lucchini - Italy, WR - France and Norma - on their way back to the front |
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4 Jan 2007, 14:44 (Ref:1806243) | #8 | ||
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Pilbeam is indeed english.
Can I point out that Monaco has and LMP manufacturer - the Lavaggi! |
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Will it get into LM though? its got good media value.
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Good Looking car Off their wed site: "REGOLAMENTO - Un'occhiata al regolamento - La categoria delle vetture sport prototipo e'divisa in due classi: LMP1 6.000 cc atm.4.000 cc turbo 5.500 cc Diesel 900 KG Ruote da 16,0" larghezza 28,5" diametro,freni 380 mm _________________ LMP2 3.400 cc atm./ max 8 cilindri 2.000 cc turbo / max 6 cilindri 4.000 cc atm. soltanto motori GT 750KG ,ruote 14,0" larghezza 28,0" ,freni diametro 355 mm" |
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5 Jan 2007, 10:04 (Ref:1806883) | #12 | ||
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Interesting looking but not to my taste - however its an interesting project.
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5 Jan 2007, 10:55 (Ref:1806923) | #13 | ||
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Go Peugeot, so GO FRANCE !!!!
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I'd have to say Spain is gaining some momentum on the organiser front. Jesus Pareja's GT Sport created the best national championship with so many Italian teams coming over to race in Spain, and the International GT Open had grids with twice the size of FIA GT on its first year. I believe if Pareja asked the FIA to support his series instead of Ratel's, they would do so.
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yeah JMB is now much more Monaco based than it was in the past as now the support of Giesse group is gone to Coppi...
the best italian team are for sure BMS (by far the biggest), GPC and Autorlando... other teams which are not bad at all are Playteam, Villorba, Racing Box, AF Corse, EdilCris which is very new but already quite competitive... other good prototypes are from Picchio (very good engineering but with a poor organisation), Lucchini, Tampolli, Dallara |
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dallara no longer race in sportscar's, not unless they make a new LMP car.
the old dallara LMP was a good competitive privateer LMP1 car and had good results in 2005 and in 2004 and 2002. |
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http://www.atrgroup.it/eng/clienti.htm IMO ATR is one of the most important powers in sportscar racing. |
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Usually I'm not that much of a chauvinist, but I have to name some dutch and belgian efforts as well here
Netherlands - Spyker Squadron, Racing for Holland, Carsport Holland Belgium - Gillet Vertigo, GLPK, PSI Experience Maybe not a lot on count, but especially Spyker/RfH/GLPK Carsport and PSI should be considered quite serious teams. |
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7 Jan 2007, 12:38 (Ref:1808786) | #22 | |
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Maybe not alot on the car count but the teams are well run and bring a very important group of fans with them...
As for the GT Open and the FIA I think one of the reasons why it has been so successful so early is the lack of FIA input...I reckon if the FIA got into it like they have with the FIA GT, there would be so many more political problems... |
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