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Styrian Grand Prix 2020: Grand Prix Weekend Thread - Round 2
It was late arriving, but Formula 1 certainly returned in momentous style in Austria last weekend, and with the tantalising prospect of an unknown amount of Grands Prix to be held in quick succession in this evolving season, the battle for the championship has lost none of its lustre.
Indeed, Christian Horner claimed this week that you have to treat every race as 'a cup final'. Valtteri Bottas said words to that effect in Austria too, that you have to re-set and tackle each one as it comes. The unknown element of the season length may mean any traditional advice of driving slightly cautiously for the championship is somewhat thrown out of the window, as all you can seek to do is maximise each individual result. With that in mind, this season, each event feels truly as a 'Grand Prix' should – an event in itself, with victory to be achieved, not only later in 2020, but now, this weekend. Now it is the Styrian Grand Prix, Styria being a slightly unfamiliar word in Formula 1, but known as the name of the state in which the Austrian Grand Prix has always taken place. We return to the Red Bull Ring for the second weekend in succession, making this the first time in Formula 1's history that a track has hosted two consecutive Grands Prix. The fact that the sport is jubilantly selling its wares in one place conjures up a carnival-like atmosphere, despite the lack of crowds at the circuit. It also calls to mind the sensation of club racing, battling away at one circuit on a regular basis. The teams and drivers will be getting even closer to perfection on this circuit this weekend – maybe it will be more predictable, or just maybe it will be even closer. The fact that we have names such as the Styrian Grand Prix and the 70th Anniversary Grand Prix in 2020 harks back to the feel of some of the non-championship races of yesteryear, yet of course, there is very much a title battle on. There have been various other occasions in which Formula 1 races had names which were not just those of their countries. Indeed, from the inaugural season in 1950 until 1960, the Indy 500 was a part of the World Championship. Then in 1976, a second race in the United States alongside its own Grand Prix was added – the United States Grand Prix West at Long Beach. In 1979, the United States Grand Prix at Watkins Glen became the United States Grand Prix East. A race on a tight circuit laid out in the car park of the Caesars Palace casino was added in 1981 and took its name– the Caesars Palace Grand Prix. The following year, there were three races in the States, as the Detroit Grand Prix was added. Detroit held its title of 'Detroit Grand Prix' even when it remained the sole race in the country. 1982 was also the year when the Swiss Grand Prix was held at Dijon in France. In 1957, a second race in Italy took place – the Pescara Grand Prix. It was the longest circuit ever used in F1, at 25.8km. 1981 in Imola, Italy, saw the San Marino Grand Prix established, a staple on the calendar for many years. Japan held the Pacific Grand Prix in 1994 and 1995, in addition to the Japanese Grand Prix. 1983 heralded the introduction of the European Grand Prix, in the early years held at Brands Hatch and then the new Nurburgring, before Donington, Jerez and the Nurburgring again hosted it in the 1990s. It became established at the German circuit. Before returning to the European Grand Prix name, the race once became the Luxembourg Grand Prix in 1998. The last European Grands Prix were those to be staged on the now-abandoned Valencia circuit in Spain. Circuit length: 4.318 km Number of laps: 71 Race distance: 306.452 km Dry weather tyre compounds: C2, C3 and C4 Race Lap Record: 1:06.957 (2018 - Kimi Räikkönen - Ferrari) First Styrian Grand Prix: 2020 First Grand Prix on current circuit: 1969 First World Championship Grand Prix on current circuit: 1970 First Grand Prix on current layout: 2014 Join the fun in the Predictions Contest and Fantasy F1: https://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=155000 https://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=155006 Last edited by Born Racer; 17 Jul 2020 at 05:19. |
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10 Jul 2020, 06:20 (Ref:3987116) | #2 | |
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I’m really disappointed they didn’t change the tyre compounds for this race, just to try and give the teams a bit of challenge. I seem to remember reading that Pirelli had a backlog of stock to burn up, so I guess that might have dictated the choice
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Let's see if any lightning strikes twice this weekend. Still hopefully the race can be as good as last week's
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It is going to be interesting to see if the lap times come down and if performances shift about between different teams. Or if the teams who were dialled last weekend going to be even more so.
On a different note, Robert Kubica is running for Alfa Romeo in FP1. |
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I should have guessed it would have to be financially motivated.....
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One would have thought that Poland and Orlen would have moved onto a talented youngster who had half a chance of making it in F1 by now!
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Interestingly, with tomorrows forecast , Toto Wolff has confirmed the team may turn the engines up in FP2, with the forecast for tomorrow possibly a total washout. If so, and if qualifying can't run on Sunday morning, then the FP2 timing sheet 'could' suddenly be the grid setter. I am sure other teams will be thinking the same, so FP2 could be quite lively.
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Ohhhh, the the only thing missing from race 1 was a downpour.
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That would be good, a bit of rain to spice it up
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Well Ricciardo will be hoping for a qualifying session now...
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Not looking great for Hamilton, big chunk of pace missing on multiple attempts now.
Car doesn’t look particularly difficult nor has there been much radio chatter (on Sky at least) so probably nothing to worry about, but it is weird. |
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I know Horner said this morning that Vettel wasn’t going to Red Bull in 2021 because Albon, Verstappen are under contract but if Albon doesn’t improve then he’s going to be out. Helmut won’t stand for it.
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But he hasn’t been close to Gasly bad so if he continues his development as he should then he will be fine. |
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1) Max has been scrappy too - it looks like the car is unstable at the rear end. 2) Alex has shown he's prepared to take a risk to make an overtake - watching "drive to survive" it seems that Gaslys lack of aggression was part of the reason they shuffled him backwards. Alex is prepared to try a move even if it doesn't come off and it appears that Red Bull prefer that approach. |
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Indeed, I can see him being a good backup to Max
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He was pretty untidy on Fridays last year as well but always delivered a solid race drive. All that was missing was a bit of extra pace. He is perfect for Red Bull as he isn't really going to challenge Max massively but he has good basic pace and can fight past people if needed. Gasly 2019 would have been mired a few places further back last week., whereas Alex was in position to pick up the pieces even if it didn't quite work out the way he hoped. Considering how frantic his introduction to F1 has been he has coped admirably. |
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As this is the second consecutive race weekend at the same circuit, couldn't they have called it the Poly-Styrian Grand Prix?
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After the thrills and spills of the Austrian GP, I'm looking forward to the Styrian GP, though will it be a repeat of last weekend's race, I doubt it back to back races seldom are but hopefully it will a good race nonetheless.
It's a bit of a jinx track for Lewis and he's only won here once in 2016, so it will be interesting to see if he will have a change in fortune. I would have liked to have seen different tyre compounds used, it would have given the teams and drivers a challenge after last weekend's race. |
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Verstappen fastest in second practice. Hopefully he can carry that pace into qualifying so Merc have a serious challenger this weekend
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So you hand your satellite team your last years car so they can mess up your competitors and their strategy...
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He'll need to stay within ~0.25s to be of any positional and strategic use. I hope he will start to manage that. Otherwise it's another advantage for the Merc's. |
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