Minardi-Arrows

Osella · 1 Jul 2003, 17:52 (Ref:648672)

any news? this one seems to have dropped off the radar

**Adam43** · 1 Jul 2003, 18:01 (Ref:648688)

I presume it was a no, not possible.

Perhaps just even more cars for Minardi days.

That reminds me, will there be a Thunder in the Park 3 this year or has the track hire fees for Donington got so high not even an f1 team can afford it?

Dani Filth · 1 Jul 2003, 18:06 (Ref:648696)

don't think they had time to test those cars .. yet .. maybe after Magny Cours

**Adam43** · 1 Jul 2003, 18:08 (Ref:648702)

Trouble is there is a testing ban coming up soon!

BTW does testing an Arrows get you out of any restrictions on testing?

Dani Filth · 1 Jul 2003, 18:18 (Ref:648712)

yes .. and McLaren is aware of that

too bad for the MP4/18

speaking of the arrows .. don;t think so ... maybe if they say is the next year's car

kristof14 · 1 Jul 2003, 18:47 (Ref:648754)

The upcoming testing ban is a gentlemans agreement between the teams, after recent events i'm sure stoddart will have no problem breaking it!

EERO · 1 Jul 2003, 22:03 (Ref:648980)

The cars came with all the equipment that Stoddardt got at bargain basement prices. it may be interesting to consider a test, but the reality of it is Minardi got some desperately needed spares and material they could little afford on the open market-the tubs were a side benefit.

kristof14 · 1 Jul 2003, 23:57 (Ref:649085)

didn't he get something like a million quids worth of carbon fibre in the deal!? along with a load of pit gear and manufacturing equipment?

**GTRMagic** · 2 Jul 2003, 00:27 (Ref:649097)

I know F1 teams dont come up for sale very often, but you would have thought the administrative receivers may have tried to shop the equipment around a little more than they appeared to do...

I was sitting here listening to the webcast, and there wasnt loads of interest in many items, certainly fewer than 5 bidders on particular items....

Speeddemon555 · 2 Jul 2003, 01:03 (Ref:649121)

So Minardi will have a four car team???

**GTRMagic** · 2 Jul 2003, 02:27 (Ref:649153)

That havent got that many engines from Cosworth

SL · 5 Jul 2003, 17:35 (Ref:653465)

I have heard that Minardi will be looking to test the Arrows cars after the British GP.

There was never an intention for buying them to race, but as they have them, IF they are a lot faster then they might be raced. Paul also owns the rights to race the Arrows cars in the Minardi name.

S

lbo · 5 Jul 2003, 18:22 (Ref:653495)

Quote:

Originally posted by Osella
any news? this one seems to have dropped off the radar

I like the name........any reason why you chose my fav F1 team?

rdjones · 5 Jul 2003, 23:37 (Ref:653643)

I think I read somewhere that they are going to test the Arrows at Rockingham on the July 21st - I belive it is going to be a back to back test with this years car........

avsfan733 · 6 Jul 2003, 01:20 (Ref:653680)

Quote:

Originally posted by GTRMagic
That havent got that many engines from Cosworth

Well Somebody does!
their were about a dozen of them up at the auction and thye sold as a single lot. Interestingly, the Arrows single level trailer sold before the auction, but the double decker pop up one failed to sell at an opening bid of about 150,000 quid

Mark Webber · 6 Jul 2003, 02:03 (Ref:653693)

I'am sure the Testing ban has already started last week

steve nielsen · 6 Jul 2003, 08:06 (Ref:653754)

Paul Stoddart has said they will test a A23 back to back with a PS03 after the british GP, but they will never use the A23 in races, they just want to learn from it.

Minardi will have a new undertray/difuser at Silverstone, so maybe they have learned something already...........

**GTRMagic** · 6 Jul 2003, 08:36 (Ref:653763)

Quote:

Originally posted by avsfan733
Well Somebody does!
their were about a dozen of them up at the auction and thye sold as a single lot. Interestingly, the Arrows single level trailer sold before the auction, but the double decker pop up one failed to sell at an opening bid of about 150,000 quid

I dont recall any Cosworth engines in the auction package, there were a shedload of horrible Arrows V10s, in E spec and F spec, including enough consumables to keep them going for a while (well except the ECUs..) but I dont think Cossies...

Having said that, Minardi bought a load of exhausts for the CR3 Arrows had laying around.

The single level trailer was also painted in Arrows colours, Stoddart also has a few old Tyrrell trucks too, painted in team livery...

That double decker was hardcore though... with the hydraulic lift doubling the height, very el swisho!

cos · 6 Jul 2003, 14:59 (Ref:653933)

Quote:

Originally posted by rdjones
I think I read somewhere that they are going to test the Arrows at Rockingham on the July 21st - I belive it is going to be a back to back test with this years car........

Think that was in Autosport this week; since when did Rockingham have an F1 testing license?

**GTRMagic** · 11 Jul 2003, 03:14 (Ref:658458)

A question, at www.race-cars.com, there seem to be a number of old F1 cars coming out of the woodwork, more than some with European Aviation on the side....

Is this a book balancing opportunity??

Osella · 11 Jul 2003, 14:49 (Ref:658849)

Quote:

Originally posted by lbo
I like the name........any reason why you chose my fav F1 team?

mine too!

gttouring · 18 Jul 2003, 13:56 (Ref:664935)

Paul stoddart said that the Arrows is not a minardi so the testing ban does not apply!
and they will evaluat the arrows and compare the ps03 to see if it is indeed better and move to it
http://f1.racing-live.com/en/

Jos Verstappen is in Great Britain to take part in this week's British Grand Prix so the Dutch driver took the time to stop at Minardi's British facility. The trip had a very specific purpose : a seat fitting session was organised for Verstappen so that the team could install a seat in one of the five Arrows A23's that Paul Stoddart recently purchased.

The team principal mentioned a few weeks ago that a comparison test between the Arrows A23 and the Minardi PS03 was going to take place, without saying if a change to the Arrows chassis was an option. The problem is that Formula One is now in a testing ban until the end of August. What can Minardi do about it ? The small Italian team could decide to bring one Arrows chassis and use it during Friday morning's private testing session during a Grand Prix weekend (at Silverstone or Hockenheim in two weeks, for example). In theory, that could be possible, since these testing sessions are not included in the testing ban.

There are those who say that Paul Stoddart's team may try to test the Arrows chassis somewhere else, regardless of the testing ban. Stoddart's argument is that the Arrows A23 is not a Minardi so the regulation does not apply to it. We will have to wait and see but sooner or later the Arrows chassis will be back and running.

Hugo GIGUERE
CAPSIS International

twig · 18 Jul 2003, 14:11 (Ref:664955)

Paul really is trying to stretch the rules stupidly here, what on earth is he talking about when he says, it isnt a Minardi, its an Arrows.....??????????!!!!!!??

Oh yes, its also a Bridgestone.......and a Petrobras.......so we can avoid the ban as well...... what about simply calling it entertainment for yourself, and not actually testing PAUL!

Im actually hoping they find the A23 to be faster than the current PS03, after all, the Arrows was actually quite a good little car, aerodynamically......pity it only managed 2 points before they ran out of money to run it

shiny side up! · 18 Jul 2003, 14:25 (Ref:664967)

Yeah, I think it is a dumb move to call it 'testing'. That is just inviting trouble. They should have just ran it, without fanfare, at some track that isn't a typical F1 test venue. I doubt anyone would care. As it is, he is just going to draw fire from his dear friend Ron Dennis and others... I wish they would have just been discreet!!!

All that being said, if they can't find money to test their own car, how did they come up with enough to run the Arrows???

gttouring · 18 Jul 2003, 14:25 (Ref:664968)

That's the idea- semantics will save minardi,
he could test at Goodwood! and say its a show, he could do all sorts of thing, the friday free test is by far the best idea though and quite legal.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Minardi/Arrows test	steve nielsen	Formula One	65	5 Oct 2003 12:08
Minardi/Arrows at Rockingham	Mopar	Formula One	12	24 Jul 2003 14:31
Predictions: Arrows or Minardi?...	slicktoast	Formula One	1	27 Sep 2001 22:37
Arrows/Minardi not starting Spa GP??	Sodemo	Formula One	8	1 Sep 2001 16:52