Thanks Max!

Marbot · 4 Feb 2006, 18:26 (Ref:1515560)

Max doing his bit for unity.http://www.crash.net/news_view~t~Mos...~id~124940.htm

ppparkinson9 · 4 Feb 2006, 18:45 (Ref:1515565)

Max always tries to apply napalm to troubled waters. This of course is completely unconnected to Luca Montezemelos recent assertions that Ferrari are in no way a manufacturer team.

JeremySmith · 4 Feb 2006, 19:20 (Ref:1515578)

Yes thank you Max ... What has the money side of Fomula1 got to do with you anyway? Nothing! So shut up...

safc_fan89 · 4 Feb 2006, 21:50 (Ref:1515653)

But Ferrari are a manufacturer aren't they? I would have thought any team that has engines from a manufacturer receives backing from a manufacturer, but that's just me...

If Max says it's because manufacturers use F1 as a business venture or whatever, then why should private teams deserve to make money from it? You'd have thought Max would want to get the manufacturers on his and Bernie's side. But that doesn;t appear to be the case.

Big-O · 4 Feb 2006, 22:28 (Ref:1515669)

Last time I checked Ferrari was manufacturing sportscars ...

It's strange, every time there is a small hope of a save landing in this case MAX flipps out.

kmsport · 5 Feb 2006, 01:22 (Ref:1515735)

Like Chopper (aka Eric Bana) says in the movie..."Mate....here, there's no cash....No cash here, mate!"

Gt_R · 5 Feb 2006, 02:25 (Ref:1515749)

Indeed, i'm amused with Max's recent comments. At a time when all parties come out saying that peace is near... Max tickles and topples the boat.

Dixie Flatline · 5 Feb 2006, 02:37 (Ref:1515751)

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Originally Posted by kmsport

Like Chopper (aka Eric Bana) says in the movie..."Mate....here, there's no cash....No cash here, mate!"

To be pedantic, Vince Colosimo's character (can't recall the name at the moment) said this line to Mark "Chopper" Read, to which Chopper took serious exception, culminating in shooting Vince's character in the knee, then driving him to hospital.

Pingguest · 5 Feb 2006, 09:42 (Ref:1515832)

Mosley has proven again that he's not willing to compromise.

safc_fan89 · 5 Feb 2006, 10:15 (Ref:1515847)

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Originally Posted by Gt_R

Indeed, i'm amused with Max's recent comments. At a time when all parties come out saying that peace is near... Max tickles and topples the boat.

Typical Max.

BootsOntheSide · 5 Feb 2006, 10:27 (Ref:1515851)

Underneath it all, this is actually a fairly good idea. Manufacturers enter Formula 1 for corporate fain, and should not be financially rewarded for this, especialyl when so many private teams have folded due to the increasing costs.

Halsey · 5 Feb 2006, 10:52 (Ref:1515861)

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Originally Posted by BootsOntheSide

Underneath it all, this is actually a fairly good idea. Manufacturers enter Formula 1 for corporate fain, and should not be financially rewarded for this, especialyl when so many private teams have folded due to the increasing costs.

While I agree with that, I can certainly see why the manufacturers wouldn't accept it.

It is therefore an incredibly stupid thing for Max to say when all the reports have pointed towards the dispute being settled soon.

Big-O · 5 Feb 2006, 11:50 (Ref:1515889)

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Originally Posted by BootsOntheSide

Underneath it all, this is actually a fairly good idea. Manufacturers enter Formula 1 for corporate fain, and should not be financially rewarded for this, especialyl when so many private teams have folded due to the increasing costs.

I can't buy that idea, this is a sport where everybody should be treated equally, manufacture or a "solo Rich-guy", having some fun with his money.... should'nt make any difference ... The Rich guy get's his stuff advertized just as well as the Manufactures. I mean, who honestly knew about for example Stoddart-air before he stepped in this sport ??? I for one did not .....

safc_fan89 · 5 Feb 2006, 11:57 (Ref:1515890)

If the Manufacturers don't get any financial reward, neither should private teams. It's almost as if Max is doing his utmost to ensure that the manufacturers do not sign the concorde agreement. Just as it seemed progress was being made.

Halsey · 5 Feb 2006, 12:07 (Ref:1515898)

But generally the "solo rich-guy", as you put it, will have a considerably smaller budget than any of the manufacturers, and therefore won't be capable of throwing the amount cash & resources at the team that are needed to produce a car that can be reasonably competitive against those of the manufacturing giants.

Now that I think about it more, it's a pretty good way of levelling the playing field. Once you make the manufacturers think about how much they can feasibly put into their F1 projects, presumably the more the costs will come down, which will assist the privateer teams.

Having said that, I'll go ahead and repeat that the manufacturers would almost certainly never agree. Certainly not when they could be getting so much more cash. So while the idea is theoretically sound, now is a very inappropriate time to suggest such a thing, given the current situation and climate in F1.

Well done Max.

safc_fan89 · 5 Feb 2006, 12:13 (Ref:1515901)

Perhaps it would be a good way to reduce costs of entering F1, but really it depends on how much a team is prepared to pay to have success. Take Toyota. They spend over $100 million a year more than Renault, with considerably less success.

And of course it depends on how much cash the teams currently receive.

Swiss · 6 Feb 2006, 13:30 (Ref:1516544)

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Originally Posted by ppparkinson9

Max always tries to apply napalm to troubled waters. This of course is completely unconnected to Luca Montezemelos recent assertions that Ferrari are in no way a manufacturer team.

Ermmm last time I checked Ferrari were a manufacturer and if they are not recognised as such then shame on the FIA !

ASCII Man · 6 Feb 2006, 13:44 (Ref:1516557)

Ferrari is a manufacturer, they make cars and they sell 'em, nuff said.

Rennen · 6 Feb 2006, 14:58 (Ref:1516593)

I recall Enzo Ferrari once being quoted as questioning why people whom didn't manufacture cars raced in Grand Prix racing anyway!...

ryan7727 · 6 Feb 2006, 16:19 (Ref:1516636)

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Originally Posted by Rennen

I recall Enzo Ferrari once being quoted as questioning why people whom didn't manufacture cars raced in Grand Prix racing anyway!...

lol

as regards max, it seems to me like he's on a power trip with F1, never seems to want to co-operate with the majority but do his own obscure thing and get everyone to agree with it

**Adam43** · 6 Feb 2006, 17:26 (Ref:1516672)

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Originally Posted by Rennen

I recall Enzo Ferrari once being quoted as questioning why people whom didn't manufacture cars raced in Grand Prix racing anyway!...

I thought that (originally) Ferrari only produced road cars to fund the racing(?)

Marbot · 6 Feb 2006, 18:25 (Ref:1516705)

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Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

I thought that (originally) Ferrari only produced road cars to fund the racing(?)

Any other manufacturer could claim that,and there are one or two that wished they had.

Dixie Flatline · 7 Feb 2006, 00:46 (Ref:1516968)

grandprix.com are postulating that the sale of the business controlled by Formula One Holdings Pty Ltd to CVC Capital Partners may constitute a change of control under the lease agreement from the FIA to FOM Pty Ltd, allowing the FIA to renegotiate the lease of the commercial rights and to take back control of these rights. Therefore, so grandprix.com say, Max's comments are perhaps an opening gambit in this issue if/when the FIA take back these rights.

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns16227.html