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25 Sep 2020, 07:44 (Ref:4006124) | #1 | |
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Max Verstappen said it was hard for him to find a reason why Lewis Hamilton should jo
Max Verstappen said it was hard for him to find a reason why Lewis Hamilton should join him in Red Bull Racing.
Recently Eddie Jordan has made some public statements. One of them was about Hamilton. The former head of the F1 team suggested that the six-time world champion should give up his new contract with Mercedes and face Verstappen at Red Bull Racing. Jordan's idea did not arouse much enthusiasm in the Dutchman. - All I'm interested in is winning the championship - answered the question asked by Motorsport.com about Jordan's words. - Well, why would he do that? He wants to win the championship, so do I. - He was trying to be on the right team to win the championship and he is in it. But let's wait what happens. |
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25 Sep 2020, 08:23 (Ref:4006129) | #2 | ||
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Eddie Rent A Quote Jordan. If you say enough silly things, one of them might eventually come true, and then we can all be amazed at how insightful he is.
Jordan talks as if Hamilton has something to prove. Verstappen is the one with something to prove. And yet he keeps signing long term contracts with Red Bull, instead of trying to get a seat in the best car on the grid. But that is another matter altogether. Eventually I'm sure he will win the WDC - and maybe several - whether that is with RBR or some other team. But while he is the hottest or 2nd hottest property in F1, perhaps his management should be trying to get him into a car that will deliver a WDC. |
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25 Sep 2020, 08:44 (Ref:4006130) | #3 | ||
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such a non story.
not sure why anyone pays attention to Jordan these days. Its not something that Red Bull would want to try and control so would never happen anyway If Hamilton joined Red Bull or Max joined Mercedes it will benefit neither. Its not like Hamilton has anything left to prove. The fact he has had 3 world champions as his teammates and beaten them all, along with his racing record speaks for itself. |
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25 Sep 2020, 10:08 (Ref:4006147) | #4 | ||
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Jenson Button, solid but not spectacular. His only world title came mostly down to being in the right place at the right time with the Brawn GP car design. And the only reason Nico Rosberg got anywhere near a world title is the shocking reliability that Hamilton suffered that year. Top drivers don't have really great team-mates. Schumacher didn't, Senna didn't (usually). It just doesn't make sense from a teams point of view. I'd say the best driver pairings we've seen in recent years are probably Alonso-Hamilton McLaren 2007 (and we all saw how that panned out) and Raikkonen-Massa at Ferrari, but certainly on the Finnish side of that garage there is a rather unique attitude and he is probably the one top driver of the last 20 years that would be able to be team-mate to anyone on the grid. It's a real shame that Hamilton and Raikkonen were never team-mates. I think Hamilton would have had the upper-hand, but I also think Raikkonen would have been able to push him closer than any other team-mate he's had. |
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2 things, he went to mclaren as a number 2 driver, was given team orders to remain behing alonso in the first part of the season (rightfully), the team only gave equal treatment around canada. the team clearly favoured hamilton? Proof please....because of course it makes perfect sense to pay millions of dollars to bring in a multiple world champion and then throw your resources behind a completely unproven rookie!!!! LOL!!!! The fact a complete rookie could get close enough to Alonso to rattle him speaks volumes about hamiltons ability. beat him on a technicality? no.....beat him Last edited by ascarracinguk; 25 Sep 2020 at 10:44. |
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I have no doubt that because Hamilton was an unknown quantity, there may've been some reliance/leaning towards Alonso. Quote:
I'm someone who thinks Alonso is better overall (That topic does get blurred). But considering how good Hamilton was straightaway and was an Mclaren/MB product. For however good Alonso is, he wasn't worth Mclaren hiring him (Or Schumacher or anyone else). Quote:
He's a "rookie". But from my observations, first year drivers from the 2000s seem different than before. I'm going to say ""yes". Same wins and points total, but Hamilton gets awarded 2nd due to more 2nd places. Not just that, but even from Canada where you said that's when they were getting equal treatment, it was 71pts each for the rest of the season (38pts after Monaco). 10-7 h2h for Alonso in races. 10-7 or 9-6 for Hamilton in qualifying. But Alonso "lost" the "meeting expectations championship". It's like watching a football final where the team that has the better of play, but still has to end up winning on penalties. I think it was to Hamilton's advantage that it was at Mclaren, and that it was Alonso having to adjust to a new team. Had Alonso stayed at Renault and Hamilton joined him there, then I personally think Alonso would've clearly beaten him. But on a scale of Alonso - Fisichella, Hamilton would've been closer to Alonso than Fisichella. |
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It's interesting to recall Pedro de la Rosa's Beyond The Grid interview, where he says this pairing is the best in F1 history. Last edited by 2 litre Touring Car Star; 25 Sep 2020 at 11:21. |
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25 Sep 2020, 11:09 (Ref:4006155) | #8 | ||
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agree about Rosberg amongst other things. he ABSOLUTELY deserved his world championship. sure Hamilton suffered poor reliability, but thats nothing unusual, others have the same. Rosberg put together a great season, it also showed how much it took out of him to win, retiring straight after. By his own admission he had to put his entire life on hold to do it, something he couldnt have done again.
Ive actually grown to admire rosberg more and more since his retirement and realise how underappreciated he was. |
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26 Sep 2020, 10:42 (Ref:4006348) | #9 | ||
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I am not sure Verstappen will win a WDC at at all, he has the talent but I can see it is possible that the younger drivers coming through may move the goal posts so to speak and MB's long domination has certainly prevented him from being a WDC already. In ordinary circumstances he could just have been a WDC already but MB have effectively blocked his way so far.
If MB continue their winning ways which is more likely than not how many years do you think Verstappen has to wait his chance? He has just about gauranteed that a move to MB is out of the question because his contract is out of phase with everyone else's. RB do not look like they are going to return to the podium within the next decade and all in all I would not put a bet on his WDC chances at all. Time will tell of course but brilliant drivers before him have not won either. Quote:
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Max is surely talented and determined enough, that is not the problem. He may end up as a multi-time champion but he may as well end his carreer without a title at all. Nobody can tell. Eveything has to be in order at exactly the right, there is too many circumstances out of his control. Same is true of course for Leclerc (and other upcoming talents). Just imagine Ferrari gets its acts together in the next few years. We may see a Ferrari-Leclerc dominance. Or if Mercedes keeps doing what it is doing, then maybe Lewis' eventual successor (Russell? or someone else) will pick up where Lewis left. |
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25 Sep 2020, 09:09 (Ref:4006131) | #11 | |
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Stranger things have happened, but I would be very surprised if Hamilton joined RBR. It's a nice idea, but let's not forget Red Bull seem to only be interested in drivers from their own programme. They already said Vettel was a no go. Why should Hamilton be any different?
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There is literally ZERO reason for Lewis to join RBR, and ZERO reason for RBR to want to upset the apple cart with Max i would be highly surprised if Max's management weren't sniffing around Merc if there is a chance Bottas/ Hamilton were leaving the team |
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25 Sep 2020, 09:22 (Ref:4006138) | #13 | |
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While Verstappen is there joining RB would most likely expose the weaknesses of Hamilton.
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25 Sep 2020, 09:27 (Ref:4006142) | #14 | ||
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Total non-story. Just like the one about Hamilton joining Ferrari.....
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25 Sep 2020, 10:26 (Ref:4006150) | #17 | |
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LOL, if Red Bull thought they could get Hamilton they certainly would. Think of the PR - which is why they are in the sport to start with.
Though, if that unlikely event came to pass, Merc would move heaven and earth to sign Max anyway. |
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Any other driver in there is treated as no.2 even if it may not be specifically in the contract. Current RB driver mantra is little different to how Benetton was in Schu era, Ferrari in Schu era and Alonso Enstone era (both!) |
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Hold on with your agreement. There's another post on the other tab quoting you! lol
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