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27 Feb 2006, 14:08 (Ref:1532525) | #1 | ||
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Allards - what do you know?
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I used to own an Allard "M" Coupe, and then a J2, in the fifties. I have recently bought another 1949 "M" Coupe and would be most interested to hear from others with an interest in Allards. My cars can be seen at www.statim.co.uk Do "post" if you have an interest in Allards. Thanks, Geoff. |
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27 Feb 2006, 14:21 (Ref:1532532) | #2 | ||
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Geoff, I much enjoyed the story of your first 'outing' in the new acquisition. It's great to see her back on the road; you must stick with it.
I'm assuming that you would prefer to leave this thread in this forum than in the Road Car forum for a number of reasons. |
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27 Feb 2006, 17:02 (Ref:1532607) | #3 | ||
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Hi! Geoff,
When I was but a boy a J2, J2X, J2R were the cars I wanted when I grew up (pity I never did) so I have always loved these very charismatic motors. I have a few pictures taken at Donington and Goodwood of them so if you would like copies I will e-mail them to you, gladly. Apropos of not very much I remember the story of the J2X at Le Mans one year when Sidney was driving and crashed, bending the steering. Later his co-driver also left the road and bent the steering straight 'well straightish!'. |
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15 Jan 2007, 23:00 (Ref:1816075) | #5 | ||
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Blast! (that shouldn't upset the autocensor...) I had written a fairly long post with the following identification and then a brief description of all the different Allard models, then managed to accidentally hit the wrong menu option and delete it all rather than "select all" - infuriating!
Anyway, after having first thoughts of the various J, K, L, M, P, etc models & not knowing them all by heart, I looked them up and can confidently say the first is a K1 (or perhaps K2 which has a boot lid), the second is the P1 and the third car is an M1 (drophead coupe version of K1/K2/L model). The J1 is similar to the K1 but has cutaway sides rather than doors. Later models all had full-width bodywork. The P1 is a later model, with full-width bodywork at the rear. The J2 is a cycle-wing, lightweight version of the K1. Note I would not be surprised if I am corrected by a proper Allard expert! Interestingly, the P1 and M1 were by far the two most popular Allard models, together representing over half of the total marque production. By contrast the competition models (J2, J2X, JR, J2R) make up only 10%. |
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16 Jan 2007, 07:59 (Ref:1816259) | #6 | ||
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In 1953 Tommy Sopwith built the 'Sphinx', this was a two seater sports racer using an Armstrong Siddeley 346 engine with an Allard chassis. Although the car was reasonably successful he was met with complete apathy from the Siddeley Board of Directors.
Also I have heard of an Allard being bodied by Duncan Industries of North Walsham in Norfolk, but cannot varify this. By chance I have written a couple of short articles on both the Sphinx and Ian Duncan, these can be seen on www.talesandtravails.netaspace.com |
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Leigh, didn't see any pictures of the Sphinx. Are there any? |
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I have a magazine lying around somewhere with an article on Sydney Allard’s Steyr-powered hillclimb car. 3.7L of air cooled V8, twin rear wheels and polished alloy body. |
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23 Jan 2007, 00:58 (Ref:1822340) | #10 | ||
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There were 3 Allards at the RACV Great Australian Rally at the Mornington Racecourse last Sunday. The reason the tonneaus are on the cars (and the reason I didn’t read the info boards) was that a thunderstorm was threatening and there had already been a couple of preliminary showers . The first is a K? model
There was also a P1X And finally a Palm Beach Last edited by johnh875; 23 Jan 2007 at 01:01. |
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23 Jan 2007, 06:54 (Ref:1822460) | #11 | ||
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Have you joined the owners club Geoff? If not p.m me and i will give you the details.
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25 Jan 2007, 02:37 (Ref:1825349) | #13 | ||
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Looks to be a J2 and a trial-ised K
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