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Mount Panorama - EOI New Circuit
Going through my daily tender alerts and this one popped its head up again. Thought you might be interested in the alert :
Organisation: NSW Government Issued by: Bathurst Regional Council Tender #: Location: New South Wales : Central West Category: Engineering & Research & Technical Based Services : Engineering Consulting Services Closing date: 02-05-2017 Description: Bathurst Regional Council wishes to invite expressions of interest, from organisations with suitably qualified professionals to carry out the design and documentation of a second motorsport circuit at Mount Panorama, Bathurst. In addition, the consultant will be required to prepare and lodge the development application for a Recreation Facility (Major). The development is likely to be State Significant development pursuant to SEPP (State & Regional Development). The second circuit will be required to cater for both motor vehicle and motor cycle racing, and is to be fully accredited to Federation Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA) / Federation Internationale de Motocyclisme (FIM) approvals Project Delivery will be by Design Contract, via the Selective Tendering process. Council will select up to 3 submissions received in response to this brief, which are considered worthy for further investigation. Those selected will be given an opportunity to tender on a fixed price Design and Documentation Contract. |
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heres hoping they don't let Mark Skaife anywhere near the design table for that one...
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3 Apr 2017, 07:46 (Ref:3723435) | #6 | |
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Fixed price? OK, I'm out!
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And the point of building an FIA & FIM spec track, in the shadow of what will always be known as the "proper Bathurst track" is...?
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"Maybe we'll get Moto GP!!! Dorna mentioned something about Phillip Island, but it shouldn't be a problem, it's only considered one of the best tracks and rider favourites on the calendar...."
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3 Apr 2017, 22:50 (Ref:3723593) | #9 | |
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How incredibly stupid. Who in their right mind would go to Bathurst and want their race on another generic cookie cutter racetrack, when one of the greatest tracks in the world is about 500 metres away !?!??!? It would never get used.
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If NSW needs another circuit the one proposed north of Newcastle seems the best option. And by the way Bathursts Moto GP fantasies are just that as the Victorian government has the race tied up for nearly the next 10 years.If NSW really wanted this event or any other international event short of F1 there already is a homologated circuit in the state. |
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I'm not getting into the Moto GP stuff as I grew up on a diet of English bikes around the circuit -what a great sound with that deep note particularly around the top of the Mountain and over Skyline. What memories! The healthy bike fields at SMSP tell me that things aren't too bad and the non existent spectator is common to all forms of motor sport both 2 and 4 wheel. I hope the new track and the associated Velocity Park come to fruition in the not too distant future whilst I am still young enough to enjoy them. |
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6 Apr 2017, 19:16 (Ref:3724225) | #13 | |
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International or national level? Neither have a following worth building a track for unfortunately. Even if they were building a new track in an effort to get something as big and wonderful as F1, just ask India, South Korea etc how that goes. New tracks built in the current economic climate should have Supercars and grass roots motorsports (which national SBK would fall under anyway) in mind when designed, nothing more.
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3 Apr 2017, 22:59 (Ref:3723594) | #14 | |
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The designs that they are showing on Speedcafe, look pretty boring- Scalextrix beginners set would probably be more exciting!
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3 Apr 2017, 23:20 (Ref:3723596) | #15 | |
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there must be some logic behind the 2nd circuit. anyone know what it is?
Does it get around the rules regarding only so many races? for $50 Mill you could buy all the properties and the current track would be permanent |
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Why isn't that being looked into? Makes perfect sense. And could be the start of a regional technology hub, around motorsport activities. The possibilities exist, if you think beyond the square |
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If you look back at #17 you will see an explanation about the proposed Velocity Park - a major cornerstone of the whole project for the benefit of the city for years to come.
The track is permanent even though it is public roads- it would be the best kept bit of roadway in the state and will always be that way as the BRC understands the importance of the major financial contribution to the area through tourism etc that the whole place brings. Many other rural councils would love to have such a facility that helps the area allyear long not only at certain periods. Name another rural city in Australia that is recognised around the world and benefits from the massive tourism $ that a local facility generates. |
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Yes, Bathurst benefits from having the track there and yes it would likely benefit even more so if the proposed venture went forward. But what about towns with nothing, no Velocity Park, no track even? Doesn't really make sense to build another track at Bathurst to "help the local area" when some regions have no track at all. Spread it round I say, give more people a practical way to get into motorsport and/or get out to see the Supercars. Not to mention the other benefits a track would bring to a regional town. |
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The purpose back then was to allow for more race meetings because the locals would not be inconvenienced by designing the proposed circuit so only a small part on the existing circuit would be used. Most of the designs back then used Murray's Corner, Pit Straight and Hell Corner with the new part of the circuit starting halfway up Mountain Straight and rejoining the existing circuit on Conrod Straight. |
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Surely all this money is better spent on building a track in NSW somewhere that doesn't already have a circuit?
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Could making the track permanent bring on other consequences, like requirements for run-off areas across the top etc...? (I've no idea, but i'd assume non-permanent circuits get some leeway on things like this) |
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The proposed second track has been in the wind for a long time and is tied up with the proposed development of a Velocity Park encompassing all things from manufacturers, specialist equipment/parts/fabricators/engineering for both 2 and 4 wheel sectors. It will provide employment for people and the chance to get away from the ratrace to affordable living and an ideal place to bring up young children. The Bathurst Regional Council has done a lot of work on the project for a number of years and sees the financial benefit it will bring to town as well as providing more avenues for carclubs etc. Distance is nothing in the country and with the ever improving roads is now only 2.5 hours from the big smoke. Where would you prefer to go ..windy Wakefield or a venue with multiple track configurations including a possible 2nd hillclimb ? |
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Interesting Designs.
http://www.speedcafe.com/2017/04/04/...hurst-circuit/ I may just download the tender documents just to have a look at the requirements for the Scope of Work for the design. |
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I don't know why this keeps happening at Bathurst when there are better regional options.
Reviving Gnoo Blas would appeal greatly, but more seriously something around Tamworth/Armidale would probably be better placed. I recall a high standard kart track being built near Coffs in the early(?) 90s, is it still going? Could it sustain a car/bike circuit? |
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