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14 Mar 2013, 19:44 (Ref:3218464) | #1 | ||
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Racing Prototype ............... (P) = DP, P2 & DW Prototype Challenge (PC) = LMPC GT Le Mans ........(GTLM) = GTE GT Daytona .........(GTD) = GA-GT & GTc GX.....*for now*......(GX) = GX IMSA, is the sanctioning body for the new series http://www.unitedsportscar.com/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/355254754591408/ Atherton said P rules in 90 days L.P. |
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GX needs to grow significantly for them to warrant cluttering things up with a fifth class. If they continue with so few cars, just merge it into GTD somehow. Alternatively, talk to the ACO, and open up some more options in GTLM: hybrids, diesels, etc.
I don't especially dislike the new name, but given what it is, I would just as soon have it be called the USRRC (even if there is a token round in Canada and/or Mexico). Funny thing, I just checked, and the old USRRC visited BOTH Canada and Mexico in 1968. Last edited by Purist; 14 Mar 2013 at 20:27. |
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I think (hope) G'X' will become an add on to a class that best suits the individual cars that qualify as an 'X', performance level. From Conti all the way to GTLM. L.P. Last edited by HORNDAWG; 14 Mar 2013 at 20:26. |
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14 Mar 2013, 20:29 (Ref:3218498) | #5 | |
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Already a fake twitter account on the go by the looks of things.
Why do people bother I really don't know. https://twitter.com/USCRSeries |
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14 Mar 2013, 20:48 (Ref:3218509) | #6 | ||
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I can seriously see Prototypes and GT cars combined for the larger circuits and separate races for the smaller circuits, and I can also see the Prototypes running on their own at Long Beach and Baltimore and the GT cars running on their own in Detroit and possibly Mosport.
I think the combined series needs to find a place for all of the circuits on both the ALMS and the Grand-Am series. Those circuits have stood behind both series, and now this combined series needs to step up and support ALL of the circuits. |
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I think the brand will catch on with the hardcore the same way ALMS and Grand-Am caught on. To future fans United SportsCar Racing will simply mean sports car racing. The true meaning of United will likely be lost on them, but that is irrelevant in the long run. The idea will be to stay united and grow. No problems with the branding, which is likely to change with the inclusion of sponsorship branding. Chris Edit: my idea of a likely schedule 24 Hours of Daytona 12 Hours of Sebring Grand Prix of Long Beach (split races or one of P & PC or GTLM & GTD racing with IndyCar) Laguna Seca Detroit Watkins Glen 6 Hours Mosport Indy Mid-Ohio Road America CoTA Petit Le Mans |
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Hate to be negative (no, seriously) but "United" is a ridiculous word to include.
Did the series organizers think it would only last a couple years? By 2018 or 2020 no one will care about ALMS or Rolex, and there will only have been a single series for five or seven years. What will "united" mean then? As well call it "atavistic." No offense to the guy who thought it up, but he was thinking of the Very short term, the actual period while the merger is being effected. After that ... well, my wife is no longer "my fiancee, you know"? We are no longer "engaged." On top of that, Use-Car, or Us-Car ... neither rolls off the tongue. Rather they skid off the tongue ripping flesh as they go. Add to that the meaningless, simplistic, non-identifying logo ("Hey, look at the sticker on this guy's hauler----I guess he sells helmets,") and wht it comes down to is ALMS has once again spent a ridiculous sum of money to get it Totally Wrong. Scott Atherton emphasized that they knew they only had one chance to get it right---so they paid the firm which handles the NFL, NHL and Kentucky Derby---and then went with a submission from a kart driver, and a logo that communicates nothing. Bravo. |
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In all seriousness, I had the same opinion as you. It does seem quite short-sighted initially. But we'll see what it winds up being called (the Rolex Series, IMSA?) at least colloquially. Chris |
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As to United. In the future it COULD refer to inclusiveness of Canada and Mexico. Or on an International scale, by being united with the ACO. But then again it seems some will never be pleased with it. L.P. |
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I too wish for a longer calendar, but didn't they want to begin with a 10? race schedule? I suppose I'm one of the guys who'll give it their "one shot" and remain to be positively surprised. I hope I'll be. |
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20 races looks nice on paper, what will not look nice on paper is the figure next to "Budget:".
Can't possibly find the link, but I think during one of the previous announcements somebody from ALMS/IMSA side was talking about the 12-round calendar. |
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1. 24 Hours of Daytona (Jan.) 2. 12 Hours of Sebring (March) 3. Barber (April) 4. Long Beach (April) 5. Laguna Seca (May) 6. Detroit (June) 7. Mid-Ohio (June) 8. Sahlen's 6 Hours of the Glen (June) 9. Lime Rock (July) 10. Mosport (July) 11. Indy (July) 12. Road America (August) 13. Kansas (August) 14. Baltimore (August) 15. COTA (September) 16. VIR (October) 17. Petit Le Mans (October) I'd like to see them add Sonoma, Miller, Montreal, and maybe another street race to make it twenty (like St. Petersburg, Toronto, Houston, etc.). Or that new NOLA Motorsports Park... that 6 mile layout looks pretty sweet! |
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1. 24 Hours of Daytona (Jan.)
2. 12 Hours of Sebring (March) 3. Barber (April) 4. COTA (April) 5. Laguna Seca (May) 6. Mid-Ohio (June) 7. Sahlen's 6 Hours of the Glen (July) 8. Mosport (July) 9. Road America (July) 10. 11. Indy (August) 12. NJ (September) 13. VIR (October) 14. Petit Le Mans (October) Can't run COTA during football season. Do not need Street courses. Indy must be tied to NASCAR weekend. Kansas one season only. |
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I will be highly surprised if that series off the ground, honestly. Not that it wouldn't be cool to watch, but I don't think there is enough interest in it.
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By the way my suggestion was the United Sports Car Racing Championship... that rolls off the tongue better, but I'm too young to enter!
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The new name and logo will take me some getting used to also - but I will get used to it and am happy we finally have something to call this other than "the merger".
20 races seems like alot unless the schedule really takes travel into account, but F1 has that many races all over the world. In my opinion 15 seems about right starting with Daytona 24 in Jan. thru Petit in October. That is aprox. 2-3 races per month with some breaks during the season + summer break/Le Mans. That should be enough to keep people interested. I do like the GTLM class designation... |
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I am at work and did not get to see the entire announcement so not sure if this was covered. Was there a mention of a title sponsor? Rolex, Continental, Patron ect. or not announced yet...
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