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14 Mar 2008, 01:18 (Ref:2151411) | #1 | ||
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In view of the action in Australia this weekend, I don't suppose there will be the usual amount of interest, but I enjoyed Mexico last year, no doubt partly because Olly Jarvis took a feature race win for Team GBR.
He's back this year for a final appearance in A1GP for the season, but I think he may find it difficult to get a repeat win, although I wish him all the luck in the world. Jonathan Cochet - a much under-rated driver - takes over the hot seat for France, whilst Germany retain Michael Ammermuller and have announced they will be all out for victory! Jeez, hasn't the guy done enough damage already? I expect Neel Jani to cement further Switzerland's position as points leader and Rob Wickens is the form man of the moment for Canada. I seem to remember there was plenty of overtaking last year, so it should be good and due to the time zones there is no clash with Australia. They've changed the track to encourage even more overtaking and there's a good map of it here. |
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14 Mar 2008, 04:49 (Ref:2151469) | #2 | ||
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What's on in Australia this weekend?
Surprised Germany have not put Vietoris back in the car considering how many points Hammermuller has lost team Germany. Just shows Willi Weber to be stubborn I think. Ironically though there was a shunt at the start in Mexico last year between Brazil and Germany, when Vietoris was in the car. From memory that one was just a racing incident however. The track has all the right ingredients to provide more drama, although the feature got a boring after a while last year (unusually for A1GP). Hope the chicane they have put in is not too Micky Mouse. Cochet was dynamite in F3 a few years ago, will be interesting to see how he goes. I too expect Jani and Wickens to be up front however, and NZ need a strong performance to prevent the Swiss taking further advantage in the points standings. |
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14 Mar 2008, 07:35 (Ref:2151526) | #3 | |
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What's happening in Australia this weekend??
I think it's this race thing called 'F1' Very old style of racing. They been doing it since the 50s. Some of the guys in it are in their 70s now.. lol. Anyway there are changes to the circuit for A1GP Mexico. In addition to the addition of a chicane to slow cars down before entry into the high speed Peraltada corner, they are emliminating turns 5,6,7,8 by linking turn 4 into turn 9 thus keeping lap times hopefully similar to last year. Malaysia had the quickest car here last year lapping about 0.5-0.6 seconds quicker than the nearest car in quali. Of course Vietoris did the driving instead of Hulkenberg. Still Malaysia was suprisingly very fast. Anyway with the track changes, lets see how the teams adapt to it. |
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But as usual every great corner it has to die these days. To me it was no different to an oval from the point of view of angle of impact but hey what do I know. Anyway what is on in Australia this weekend. |
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14 Mar 2008, 09:49 (Ref:2151597) | #5 | ||
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An onboard lap from last year at a1gp.com, and without the commentary.
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At least they aren't using the silly NASCAR chicane on the front straight as well.
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14 Mar 2008, 20:15 (Ref:2151904) | #7 | ||
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What!!!! is there something on in Australia this weekend ???
Only a couple of tubs with wheels sticking out the side, some Ford and Holden Taxis, some little Aussie wanta be taxis with bike engines in them, some German coupes and some other thing called a GT. ScotsBrutesFan what's wrong with the NASCAR chicane, I quite liked it |
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14 Mar 2008, 20:57 (Ref:2151932) | #8 | ||
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It did nothing for the NASCAR racing.
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15 Mar 2008, 01:15 (Ref:2152109) | #9 | ||
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Olly Jarvis has provisionally taken fastest time in the first practice session for the race drivers, but it seems several drivers were penalized for straight-lining the chicane before Peraltada.
This is not encouraging for the rest of the weekend. The times have not been confirmed yet, so perhaps more penalties on their way. |
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15 Mar 2008, 01:25 (Ref:2152113) | #10 | |
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Hopefully no penalties if the infringements only occur in the practice sessions! They should learn their lesson before qualifying, fingers crossed.
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15 Mar 2008, 04:44 (Ref:2152185) | #11 | ||
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The chicane might be a good place for Ammermuller to play dodgems on Sunday.
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Pos Driver Team Time Laps 1. Oliver Jarvis Great Britain 1:21.431 23 2. Neel Jani Switzerland 1:21.482 + 0.051 17 3. Adam Carroll Ireland 1:21.808 + 0.377 24 4. J.Bleekemolen Netherlands 1:21.876 + 0.445 27 5. Adrian Zaugg South Africa 1:21.883 + 0.452 23 6. Jonny Reid New Zealand 1:21.884 + 0.453 20 7. J.Summerton USA 1:21.942 + 0.511 29 8. M.Ammermuller Germany 1:21.974 + 0.543 19 9. Bruno Junqueira Brazil 1:22.126 + 0.695 21 10. Alex Yoong Malaysia 1:22.127 + 0.696 23 11. Robert Wickens Canada 1:22.227 + 0.796 23 12. Jonathan Cochet France 1:22.343 + 0.912 18 13. Cheng Cong Fu China 1:22.362 + 0.931 30 14. Edoardo Piscopo Italy 1:22.525 + 1.094 26 15. F.Albuquerque Portugal 1:22.586 + 1.155 27 16. N.Karthikeyan India 1:22.704 + 1.273 25 17. Adam Khan Pakistan 1:22.785 + 1.354 28 18. Jimmy Auby Lebanon 1:22.885 + 1.454 33 19. David Garza Mexico 1:22.935 + 1.504 25 20. Filip Salaquarda Czech Republic 1:23.241 + 1.810 2 21. John Martin Australia 1:23.336 + 1.905 20 22. Satrio Hermanto Indonesia 1:23.454 + 2.023 19 |
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15 Mar 2008, 12:25 (Ref:2152388) | #13 | ||
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That may have been Ireland's best showing in free practice this year if memory serves, which it doesn't usually. Good work from Oliver Jarvis, seems thankfully fitting somehow. I know it's early but France is some distance back, advantage Switzerland for the championship at the moment? At least Jonny Reid and Zaugg are in front of Germany FWIW, hoping poor judgement's not an issue in the 3 races left.
Missed both sessions yesterday so thanks for the updates. Another one of the few occasions we have open wheel racing on in the middle of the day over here. Likewise for you..lot on the time difference over there I'm sure. Hopefully the live video stream gods will continue to shine upon us (A1GP), even in Mexico. |
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15 Mar 2008, 21:07 (Ref:2152861) | #14 | ||
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Nice save Jonny off the wall in Q2
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15 Mar 2008, 21:46 (Ref:2152896) | #15 | ||
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Pos A1 Team Time Gap 1 South Africa 1'20.315 - 2 New Zealand 1'20.397 0.082 3 USA 1'20.426 0.111 4 Switzerland 1'20.518 0.203 5 Great Britain 1'20.556 0.241 6 Canada 1'20.621 0.306 7 Ireland 1'20.769 0.454 8 Brazil 1'20.842 0.527 9 Portugal 1'20.940 0.625 10 Italy 1'20.961 0.646 11 Netherlands 1'21.005 0.690 12 China 1'21.028 0.713 13 Germany 1'21.054 0.739 14 Malaysia 1'21.099 0.784 15 Pakistan 1'21.176 0.861 16 France 1'21.417 1.102 17 Australia 1'21.789 1.474 18 India 1'21.799 1.484 19 Lebanon 1'22.012 1.697 20 Indonesia 1'22.044 1.729 21 Mexico 1'22.370 2.055 22 Czech Republic 1'22.373 2.058 Feature Grid Code:
Pos A1 Team Time Gap 1 Canada 1'20.278 - 2 Switzerland 1'20.320 0.042 3 Germany 1'20.646 0.368 4 Great Britain 1'20.705 0.427 5 Ireland 1'20.708 0.430 6 New Zealand 1'20.743 0.465 7 USA 1'20.783 0.505 8 Portugal 1'20.825 0.547 9 China 1'20.859 0.581 10 South Africa 1'20.870 0.592 11 Malaysia 1'20.939 0.661 12 Italy 1'20.953 0.675 13 Netherlands 1'21.263 0.985 14 France 1'21.310 1.032 15 Australia 1'21.358 1.080 16 Lebanon 1'21.441 1.163 17 Pakistan 1'21.484 1.206 18 Brazil 1'21.675 1.397 19 Indonesia 1'21.788 1.510 20 India 1'21.909 1.631 21 Czech Republic 1'22.333 2.055 22 Mexico 1'22.371 2.093 Last edited by NAC; 15 Mar 2008 at 21:50. |
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15 Mar 2008, 22:18 (Ref:2152930) | #16 | ||
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Really? I'm certain Jani & Wickens ignored the yellow for Garza's crash...seems very unfair.
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15 Mar 2008, 22:40 (Ref:2152946) | #18 | ||
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I agree with Hazard. If you read this, it suggests there may still be action. Zaugg definitely saw the flags and aborted his lap, as the report says.
Who are "they" and when did they say "no action"? |
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Well - despite ours and clearly some other drivers grumbles, (), seems like Wickens pole has been confirmed.
He says he slowed down for the yellows anyway - yet still set pole...wow, he's so fast! |
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16 Mar 2008, 14:18 (Ref:2153677) | #22 | ||
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Aaagh!! What have they done to the track?!?!
They have ruined it. |
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16 Mar 2008, 14:39 (Ref:2153710) | #23 | ||
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LOL Hazard. He's a litttle bit fast.
Not sure how the regulation reads, does it say how long a driver has to lift? 4 or 5 of them went past waved yellows at the end there and Jani and Wickens were a tenth apart. I dunno, what would an appropriate penalty have been? Either way, I hope it doesn't spoil the race for you, there's only 3 events left. |
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16 Mar 2008, 14:57 (Ref:2153736) | #24 | ||
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I suppose they could say, any driver having to pass a waved yellow situation scraps the lap time and they're forced to rely on only a single flying lap. I don't see how the regulation (and any penalty) can be fair to all of the drivers in field otherwise.
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16 Mar 2008, 15:38 (Ref:2153782) | #25 | ||
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They had John Surtees as the guest expert in the UK TV studio. He said he was hoping hoping Rob Wickens would get away with it, because he obviously rates him (as do I), but that in the UK it would have been an open and shut case - time disallowed.
It should help that they have sector times. If Rob did personal bests in sectors 1 and 2, but was slower in sector 3, then that would support his claim to have lifted off. What bothered me most was that there was a Marshal standing by the stationary car and if anyone had slammed into it... well, you work it out. |
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