[Team] Brawn to become 'Mercedes' !

[Marbot]

Apparently the deal is now in the closing stages!

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/1...s-next-season/

[jab]

Reminds me of Ford taking over Stewart after only a couple of years. And we all know what happened as a result of that...

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by jab

Reminds me of Ford taking over Stewart after only a couple of years. And we all know what happened as a result of that...

Yes. They became Jaguar, and then RedBull....terrible!

[Mr V]

Originally Posted by Marbot

Yes. They became Jaguar, and then RedBull....terrible!

Didn't do Ford any good though

[johntt]

Originally Posted by jab

Reminds me of Ford taking over Stewart after only a couple of years. And we all know what happened as a result of that...

Mercedes power has won the last two championships, the last championship powered by Ford was 1994.

[duke_toaster]

It would be a shame to lose the Brawn name - aside from that it's a sad fact of life the team really needs to be under the wing of a manufacturer.

[jab]

The point is that Stewart were a team on the up. They did very well in 1999, capped with the win and the pole. Then Ford intervened and messed everything up by imposing their way onto a perfectly good little team. From then on there was no stability

I fear Mercedes would do the same. We know Ross can run a good team on his own now but I fear that one bad year and Merc would intefere, Ross would get the boot, they'd put Norbert or another of their own in charge and it would go tits up. The fact that they're forcing a German driver on them is a sign

[johntt]

Ecept that driver could be Glock or Rosberg, so its not such a bad thing if two of the u and coming talented drivers are German.

[jab]

But that's not the point. The idea of dictating which drivers a team should hire based on nationality or whatever will never workHonda did it in the 80s with Nakajima and then Aguri Suzuki and Nakano in the 90s and Sato in the 2000s. BMW made Williams hire Germans. Peugeot tried to push McLaren into signing a Frenchman and ended up having to run Alliot, who was long past it, when Hakkinen was banned. A slightly different example is Marlboro forcing McLaren to hire Mansell, who hated Ron - again, didn't work. And then there's US F1, who have got so much grief for going after Americans above other drivers

[steve_r]

Originally Posted by jab

But that's not the point. The idea of dictating which drivers a team should hire based on nationality or whatever will never workHonda did it in the 80s with Nakajima and then Aguri Suzuki and Nakano in the 90s and Sato in the 2000s. BMW made Williams hire Germans. Peugeot tried to push McLaren into signing a Frenchman and ended up having to run Alliot, who was long past it, when Hakkinen was banned. A slightly different example is Marlboro forcing McLaren to hire Mansell, who hated Ron - again, didn't work. And then there's US F1, who have got so much grief for going after Americans above other drivers

Are you seriously comparing Nico Rosberg's level of ability with Aguri Suzuki, Nakajima & Nakano? Rosberg has seriously impressed me, and I personally rekon he will do very well in a more competitive car.

[Bononi]

So... MercedesF1 next year !

[bjohnsonsmith]

If Brawn does become Mercedes F1, that could put McLaren in a difficult position, just as they were coming good again and now finding themselves playing second fiddle as a Mercedes customer.

[Mekola]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

If Brawn does become Mercedes F1, that could put McLaren in a difficult position, just as they were coming good again and now finding themselves playing second fiddle as a Mercedes customer.

Mostly when McLaren has built the Paragon Technology Centre and all that...

[strider]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

If Brawn does become Mercedes F1, that could put McLaren in a difficult position, just as they were coming good again and now finding themselves playing second fiddle as a Mercedes customer.

Brawn was a Mercedes customer team this year, so in theory it shouldn't be a handicap.

[kartracer41]

Originally Posted by strider

Brawn was a Mercedes customer team this year, so in theory it shouldn't be a handicap.

I think you missed the word "McLaren" in there.

[blaffer]

"Mercedes is just days away from announcing a £500m split with McLaren."

Rosberg is to become first driver at the new German team. And Button is driven out by Mercedes.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/motors...5875-21822597/

[Gingers4Justice]

I couldn't care less about the politics - we good have Ferraris, Lotus, Sauber and the Silver Arrows all racing together.

Another added bonus of Merc coming in is we'd lose another white car from the grid - ok, that sounds ridiculous, but almost every car now is white in some form or another, and when you have 20 white cars racing round a desert in Bahrain, there isn't a lot there to stimulate the mind .

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by blaffer

Rosberg is to become first driver at the new German team. And Button is driven out by Mercedes.

According to that article.

Yes, it could be true! However, not sure that Rosberg is Mercedes first choice. He's done well this season, but sometimes he's been a bit ordinary in previous seasons, and he doesn't really get too excited about being German.

[EBXR8]

Mabye Brawn-Mercedes F1

afterall it used to be McLaren Mercedes

[Tim the Grey]

If Brawn go to Mercedes, and they did sack Ross, perhaps they could install Alfred Neubauer? He'd be as good as anyone else in Ross's place...

Don't see it happening.

[bjohnsonsmith]

They wouldn't sack Ross, that would be killing the goose that lays the golden egg. However, if down the line the results aren't forthcoming then they might. On the other hand, Ross could pre-empt a sacking and leave citing interference by Mercedes in team strategy. Hopefully none of this will happen; F1 needs a bit of stability.

[ECW Dan Selby]

No, I think what he is saying is it's a similar situation. I don't think he's comparing skills.

I'm guessing what he means is if they're doing it with Rosberg, who's to say if Rosberg doesn't work they'll just throw another German in there, despite there being better talent?

Selby

[bjohnsonsmith]

Yes but McLaren wasn't a works team. If Brawn becomes Mercedes, they are the works team get everything that goes with the designation.

[strider]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Yes but McLaren wasn't a works team. If Brawn becomes Mercedes, they are the works team get everything that goes with the designation.

If that article from the Mirror is correct, which I'm not convinced it is, then being a Mercedes works team may not be such a big deal.

[JeremySmith]

McLaren want to use BMW engines is this true? or build their own...