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BBC : Renault lumps for Lotus next year, "Team Lotus" may return
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8808856.stm
Enginewise, if this is right it's a great deal for everyone. Renault would get their third team (who next year will be a vast improvement, surely), Lotus would get something which appears to be the match of, or superior to, the Cosworth. Yes, one could misty-eyed about the Lotus-Cosworth, but if Lotus-Renault was good enough for Our Nige ... If they can get a deal together with whoever owns the Team Lotus name (and get Hazel Chapman's blessing), that sounds good - they're effectively restoring the name of the UK's greatest ever sports team*, which can't be a bad thing. If they do bring the name back, I'd rather that they re-registered it under a British competitor licence. Tony Fernandes and Mike Gascoyne have done a great job just to get the team going, to be leading teams that had a several month head start on development is a great achievement. Some of the midfield runners should be worried for next year ... * Yes Manchester United/Liverpool, Lotus won seven world championships. You've only won two, MUFC. |
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Would this be the Renault engine that is generally regarded as being down on power compared with the Merc's and Ferrari's?
The upturn in Williams performance suggests that there is not much wrong with the Cosworth units. I like the way Lotus are progressing, and hopefully they can latch onto the main field next season. |
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Fingers crossed for the Team Lotus name to return if David Hunt allows it. The team has impressed me so far with how they have applied themselves this year along with honouring the past, as to start with I was rather cynical of the use of the Lotus name with one of the new entrants. |
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a crucial step at becoming a team with long term aspirations in F1.
on a side note, considering Force India's "technical partnership" for lack of a better term with Mclaren have yielded great results in a very short time, i wonder if something similar will happen with Renault and Lotus. either way im glad that Renault are only strengthening their ties to F1 as opposed to slowly pulling out. |
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Mr Senna was the hot shoe in the Lotus Renault... qualifying day was ALWAYS awesome!
Are there any commercial sponsorships looking to come aboard Lotus? The cars are decidedly bare of names not associated with the team ownership... Webber to Lotus? |
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Maybe Senna/Lotus/Renault again... who knows where Bruno will end up?
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they've had a flood of smaller deals coming through recently - i think considering the key to motorsport sponsorship is knowing a lot of people with money who you can cajole into parting with it in exchange for a nice hat and some champagne lotus are doing pretty well.
i think it'd be brilliant if they were to race with the team lotus name. they've shown they're a credible setup now and they are keeping faith with a lot of the old principles and embracing the past. |
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So with KERS back on the dance cards for next year what does this mean for Cosworth. Are Williams going to give their system to Coswoth and the other teams?
Don't forget that the Renault KERS system was pretty ordinary Surely everyone will be wanting Mercedes or even Ferrari engines next year |
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All the teams will have had time to develop their KERS systems, though. KERSes aren't frozen.
EDIT : Which one was the Zytek? I'm pretty sure it was either the Renault, the Ferrari or both that was Magneti Marelli. |
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As a great fan of the original Lotus Team, I'm delighted how the new Lotus has set about doing the job in hand.
I didn't doubt them in the beginning, carried along by hope and wishful thinking I suppose. But the longer the season has progressed the more impressed I have become. For a team starting from scratch in such a short time to have done so well the future looks good, really good, be it Cosworth or Renault power. I for one would be very happy if Webber joined for next year. (So many have touted Webber for Renault for so long...) P |
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The most interesting thing I thought about that article is that Lotus was"
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Seems a little unfair since it really isn't anything near a continuation of the former team, even if the "Team Lotus" name came back into being. |
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The car itself is essentially a Litespeed that Mike Gascoyne was working on before they were denied their entry, due to the decision to scrap the budget caps. Mike more then likely had an idea as to the 2010 regs before Force India let him go, so could design a basic but competent car for a teams first year. It could be argued that the sorry state for HRT can be placed at the feet of the FIA, for picking a team that's financially not prepared for F1 and overlooking the likes of Lola and Prodrive, who would be better placed in the money stakes to develop the car and be closer to the field. |
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I really hope Lotus can become a top team. Just looking around Silverstone at the weekend showed how popular Lotus are in the hearts on F1 fans, it was great seeing how many Lotus fans there were out there and certainly around Luffield it seemed that there were more people wearing Lotus merchandise than any other team apart from McLaren (Ferrari seemed a distant third).
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I can only assume that somehow lump is a synonym for engine?
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99.9% sure the above is correct. Edit: Did I not read that the KERS for 2010 was likely to be a spec unit? Possibly the not as yet seen racing Flywheel derived type of system that Williams was / is developing in house through their associate company. Mind you, I have also read reports suggesting it will be a Magnetti Marelli spec unit. Some proof of my comment re Zytek...McLaren used Zytek Last edited by E.B; 17 Jul 2010 at 06:31. |
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Although theoretically the Williams system was the best for harvesting energy, we won't see the Williams fly wheel KERS system in todays F1 cars, due to the system been housed in the area of the fuel tank. The system would of worked in 2009 due to the small fuel tanks in use, but now with larger tanks it isn't feasible to have this installed.
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