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1991 Australian Group A Touring Car Racing - Discussion & Results
The 1991 season was marked by a decline in economy and reduced grids at most races - a follow up on the first Gulf war, that also afflicted the rest of the world of motorsport. The Fred Gibson Nissan Skylines were all dominant, with a young Mark Skaife really coming off age, but with teammate Jim Richards taking his fourth ATCC title. Holden offered a brand new package in the Commodore VN, luring back the Brock-Perkins constellation, while BMW made a return with ..Frank Gardner managing once again. Among the Sierras the Seton family had the legs on the DJR cars in most races.
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The reduced grids was not solely down to the economy, it had as much to do with the fact that CAMS required all entrants, even those doing a one-off, to pay the full championship registration fee before their entry would be accepted. This angered alot of the privateers, Gerald Kay & Chris Lambden were very vocal about it, as was Brian Callaghan, and it discouraged alot of competitors.
The Brock/Perkins merger came about due to the rising costs of running a Sierra. Brock originally intended to just run the one Sierra in 1991, before the Perkins deal was done (it benefitted Perkins too, as it gave him the money to go racing). It was, effectively, the end of what was in a previous life, the HDT. People like Graeme Brown etc.. were absorbed in Perkins Engineering for 1991 with Brock... (and according to Perkins, part of the contract to run Brock/Mobil was that he couldn't beat Peter on the track...) |
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Not a good season, Amaroo and Lakeside mark 2 being the high lights
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24/2/1991 - ATCC1 - Sandown Park, VIC
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Round 1 - Sandown Park, VIC (24/2/1991) Circuit Length: 3.1 km Race Distance: 50 minutes (39 laps) Weather: Sunny
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Round 2 - Symmons Plains, TAS (10/3/1991) Circuit Length: 2.41 km Race Distance: 50 minutes (51 laps) Weather: Sunny
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14/4/1991 - ATCC3 - Wanneroo, WA
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Round 3 - Wanneroo, WA (14/4/1991) Circuit Length: 2.41 km Race Distance: 50 minutes (44 laps) Weather: Sunny
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21/4/1991 - AMSCAR1 - Amaroo Park, NSW
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Round 1 (24/4/1991) Circuit Length: 1.946 km This is the only standalone AMSCAR round I have results on. I believe there was another between Lakeside and Oran Park. Heat 1 Race Distance: 10 laps
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That was the race that the Forbes outfit was taken over by Gibson's crew. It's a fair assesment I think to state that in hindsight the GIO car was a semi works car with money going to the team through the Nissan dealer network
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I have a note about the Mercantile Mutual Toyota Dealer Team being entered by driver John Smith for 1991. The Tony Giovanni managed Toyota Team Australia team seems to have been disbanned, with the Supra and the two Corollas going to this new outfit. Can any of our resident specialists elaborate on this shift?
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AMI Toyota and Thiess Toyota merged in 1987 to become Toyota Motor Sales Australia which became Toyota Motor Corporation Australia Ltd in 1989 to formalise the merge. TTA remained through this under the management of Tony Niovanni till sometime well into the 90’s. TTA still owned all cars, transporter and equipment through this time until the end of Group A in 1993. The Mercantile Mutual sponsorship came about due to the withdraw of funding for the Group A team by the parent company Toyota Motor Corporation Australia Ltd in 1990. The MA7# turbo and the AE92’s continued to run in 1991 entered by TTA but with Mercantile livery till the end of the series. Toyota still has the MA7#, one of the AE86 GT Coupes, one of the AE92 FX-GT’s and the transporter on its asset register. However, John Smith still has custody of the MA7# and promises to look after it till his last breath. All the others have been sold off with only one casualty when it went into rally. Here is the MA71 Supra only a few months ago at Eastern Creek. |
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Mr Forbes seemed quite happy to put his own personal dollars on the line though, the GIO deal, even in the Commodore days, was said to be quite a small investment from that company, while to spend $600k on a GT-R with at best an 18 month racing life, tells a lot about a racer not an accountant Lets not forget that 00 Motorsport was also funded by Mr Forbes, with some income from Ford for one of the 3 cars.. not a decent sized commercial sponsor in sight |
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the 3RD Round was on the 28th JULY the entry list in the program was 3 Lansvale Smash Repairs Trevor Ashby VN Commodore 4 Bob Forbes Corporation P/L Mark Gibbs Nissan GTR 8 Caltex CXT Race Team Colin Bond Ford Sierra 13 Bob Holden Motors Bob Holden Toyota Corolla 14 B.Stratton Brad Stratton Toyota Corolla 21 Bob Forbes Corporation P/L T.B.A VN commodore 25 Benson & Hedges Racing Tony Longhurst BMW M3 27 T.Finnigan Terry Finnigan VN Commodore 33 Pro-duct Motorsport Bob Pearson VN Commodore 40 J&D Leeson John Leeson VL Commodore 41 G.Willmington Garry Willmington Toyota Supra 48 Stahlwille Tools Australia Peter Verheyen Toyota Corolla 52 M3 Motorsport John Cotter BMW M3 53 M3 Motorsport Peter Doulman BMW M3 74 Bob Holden Motors Frank Binding Toyota Corolla 76 Bob Holden Motors Mike Conway Toyota Corolla 99 R.Scarf Rick Scarf VK Commodore |
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From what I can recall 13, Bob Holdens Corolla was a no show after Dennis Rogers had put it into the wall at Oran Park after a ball joint broke, Frank Biniding did the repair on it before Bathurst
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Just uploaded the races from the AGP meeting. The best racing of the year by far or atleast what I've seen.
Race 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsFdp...3&feature=plcp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEwUL...2&feature=plcp Race 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjNMD...1&feature=plcp |
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Race 1 1st 25 Longhurst 2nd 4 Gibbs 3rd 27 Finnigan 4th 3 Ashby 5th 33 Pearson 6th 8 Bond (engine misfire) 7th 52 Cotter 8th 48 Verheyen 9th 76 Conway 10th 13 Holden 11th 14 Stratton 12th 74 Binding DNS 53 Doulman (low oil pressure) Race 2 1st 25 Longhurst 2nd 4 Gibbs 3rd 8 Bond 4th 27 Finnigan 5th 3 Ashby 6th 33 Pearson 7th 52 Cotter 8th 76 Conway 9th 13 Holden 10th 48 Verheyen 11th 14 Stratton 12th 74 Binding DNS 53 Doulman And as can be seen in the results Bob Holden did race his Corolla as Rd3 of the Amscar series was 2 weeks before the final ATCC round at Oran Park, when his car was damaged with Dennis Rogers driving it and did not race again till Bathurst. (He drove the other AE82 Corolla in the Sandown 500) |
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28/4/1991 - ATCC4 - Lakeside, QLD
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Round 4 - Lakeside, QLD (28/4/1991) Circuit Length: 2.41 km Race Distance: 50 minutes (54 laps) Weather: Sunny
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5/5/1991 - ATCC5 - Winton, VIC
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Round 5 - Winton, VIC (5/5/1991) Circuit Length: 2.03 km Race Distance: 50 minutes (47 laps)
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2/6/1991 - ATCC6 - Amaroo Park, NSW
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Round 6 - Amaroo Park, NSW (2/6/1991) also Round 2 of the AMSCAR Series Circuit Length: 1.964 km Race Duration: 50 minutes (55 laps) Weather: Cloudy
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23/6/1991 - ATCC7 - Mallala, SA
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Round 7 - Mallala, SA (23/6/1991) Circuit Length: 2.6 km Race Distance: 50 minutes (41 laps) Weather: Cloudy
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14/7/1991 - ATCC8 - Lakeside, QLD
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Round 8 - Lakeside, QLD (14/7/1991) Circuit Length: 2.41 km Race Distance: 50 minutes (54 laps) Weather: Sunny
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11/8/1991 - ATCC9 - Oran Park, NSW
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Round 9 - Oran Park, NSW (11/8/1991) Circuit Length: 2.62 km Race Distance: 50 minutes (41 laps) Weather: Sunny
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1991 ATCC Championship Results
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