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23 Nov 2012, 19:27 (Ref:3170316) | #1 | ||
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2013 Unlimited Racing Championship (Can Am is back!)
2013 Unlimited Racing Championship, featuring NuArt Can Am
Events will be held at select ALMS race venues.
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23 Nov 2012, 19:47 (Ref:3170322) | #3 | |
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This was also announced for 2012....
Great looking car. |
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So its a Spec car based on a 1960's design... doesn't sound very "unlimited" to me......
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At PLM, I nearly busted a gut helping these guys push one of their cars back onto the transporter. I really wanted to hear it run rather than pushing it uphill! |
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I can't believe people are forking out the dough for this, it just doesn't make much sense.
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If DP's, I'll agree with a 'Yes'. If with P2 or P1 I will agree with a 'No'. I'm amazed that my views of a modern Prototype class are one of extreme efficiency, greenness and relevance and then my views of the past are represented by Can Am and GTP. I want both! I want both my modern examples of the most technologically advanced automobiles in the world taking the track in front of my eyes while testing and proving advanced technologies in the P classes while I still linger for the excitement of the past in a modernized format. With the Can Am (simulators), they will be a great warmup before the big event. When I first saw Can Am in 1974, they ran with 1,000 - 1,400 HP. When they started a race, the ground shook and you could feel the ground shaking before they arrived. I know that with the new Can Am series they can not produce earthquakes like that, but they can get people excited. Hope they make it and the big show is worth it. |
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I'm all for it though. Provided they are fittingly overpowered and don't use TC it'll be a rare spectacle of thunder and powerslides. Surely better than the rumoured US GP2 series |
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24 Nov 2012, 23:08 (Ref:3170716) | #9 | ||
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Remember that ALMS and Gram-Am combined will have the main championship, Conti Challenge, IMSA GT3 Challenge, Star Mazda and IMSA Lites. They don't fit in the same weekend. So the URC could join one of the two packages, or perhaps IndyCar and SCCA World Challenge.
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I wonder what the transaxle is, they say syncromesh on the website. Also, they have traction control, which will probably help if they have a wet track.
There was a run of reproduction Lola T70's a while ago, is that still going on? |
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23 Nov 2012, 21:46 (Ref:3170355) | #12 | |
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This is just a way to get rich guys to spend money racing in their own series, when they should be starting P2 teams.
I am looking forward to seeing them run (if I get a chance--and if they actually run.) 494 V8s, modern brakes and tires, amateur drivers ... what could possibly go wrong? I think it will be a fun support series to watch---so long as they get a dozen cars or so. I also spoke to the guy at PLM, and he seemed pretty confident that it would actually happen this time, and be worth the wait. Of course, he was an employee. |
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To answer Skycafe... No, I am fairly certain the only T70's being made now are replica's as Lola has gone bust...
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these cars were supposed to make a debut / "preview" at ALMS Lime Rock Park - Northeast Grand Prix
but were a no show? |
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"You can pick up an actual real McLaren M8 for as little as $USD 300,000, in good running condition."
On the other hand if you have the kind of money needed to buy, insure, maintain, crew, transport and compete in an historic racer, you can probably buy whatever you want, and probably some more besides. So, Instead of risking your historic McLaren, you can race around in a car with modern safety appurtenances, modern tires and brakes, and modern suspension---likely going faster and more safely than in the McLaren M8 you keep at home and driver rather carefully at the Monterey Historics once a year. Liley you can have more fun in the Ultimacar, because you know if you wreck it you will likely survive better than in the McLaren, and also the car will be easier to fix. Further, if I recall that cost came with a bunch of extras like crew and care at the event ... I think it was turnkey for folks who didn't have a racing organization behind them. So a guy with a lot of money can buy the M8 and hire one guy to keep it pristine, and run it a few miles now and then to keep things circulating, and can fly to a racetrack, hop in his fake UltimaCar, blast around like an idiot with a huge smile on his face, and when he goes into the tires he can write a check and be back on track for the second event of the weekend ... instead of trying to find guys who know how to fix bonded aluminum honeycomb and have authentic 1972 Chevy 510 V8 parts in stock. I have no idea if the series will survive and I don't care if it is a good idea for a business. I hope it makes for a good spectacle at the track. According to the guy I spoke with, enough rich folks agreed that it sounded like fun which is why it will finally get off the ground (they claim) in 2013. If it only lasts one season, no matter to me, and that's one more McLaren M8 for someone like you to buy. |
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So, a killer track day car and a "race" series created to sell it. I could see a rich guy paying to play but I can't see paying to watch a bunch of rich guys playing in irrelevant machinery.
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You can pick up an actual real McLaren M8 for as little as $USD 300,000, in good running condition. With that M8, you can run pretty much anywhere you want, forever and have a real car, with pedigree.
With these kits car copies, for the price of $USD 480,000, you will be able to race in this series, for as long as it lasts. Once the series is over, you pretty much have a worthless kit car, that likely won't be able to be raced anywhere. |
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I find the engine most interesting. It's a 496 chevy, better know as the Vortec 8200. That's a truck engine and I don't think they make it any more. Surely, a crate 454/502/572 would be more economical? A ZZ502 would rip these rich fellas faces off. |
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I say this is a fantastic initiative ! Let's face it, the LMPC's are downright boring(I see them as fieldfillers, nothing more), the large LMP2 club of standardised Nissans don't really rock my boat too, so to have the prospect of seeing these brutes of yesteryear running with up to date brakes, suspension and tires, makes my mouth watter !
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The Series is likely to last one year.... Between Grand Am and ALMS they have enough support series with meaningful entries.
Race just at Monterey? Ummm... these cars get out an awful lot more than that. |
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I haven't been to a lot of Historic races but I haven't seen a lot of M8s either. One I think, and one M20. Mostly it is 911s and Chevrons and Cobras and a few Lotus 23s, some Trans Am cars ...
But ... Sure the guy could go out and thrash his M8. I wouoldn't. I would rather thrash my Cheezcar on a regular basis and keep the McLaren intact---just take it out for a few scary rides a year. Though I must say, in I think four years of watching historic racing I have only seen one car totaled and it was one of the many 911s, so eh ... |
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