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The 'Top 100' Motorsport Championships
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The aim of this chart is to show which championships offer the best action for the spectators It's ordered by a percentage figure which reflects how full the grids are. Each circuit layout has a maximum number of cars allowed to race on it, and there are three different levels based upon the type of car and engine size. Ordering the chart via average grid size is not valid as it would penalise championships that run frequently on smaller circuits (where the amount of cars that can race is substantially lower e.g. Lydden Hill = 24, Snetterton 300 = 45). Of course having a full grid of cars doesn't necessarily mean the racing will be good, but for the spectators there's likely to be more battles throughout the field, rather than a 6 car race where all the cars are spread out for example. Of course a two car battle for the lead can still make a race a classic! So this 'top 100' is more for fun than for any serious comparison. What Championships or Series are included? Circuit tarmac races for cars and trucks in England, Wales and Scotland, where the results of two or more 2012 events can be found online. Does not include events such as allcomers races, one day festivals, winter championships, karting, rallying, rallycross, sprinting, time attack, motorcycle racing, drifting. Also does not include (even if they have two or more Races in the UK) championships/series which race for the majority of the time outside of England, Wales and Scotland. Key Asterisk symbol (*) indicates that the championship or series has, for at least one event, in recent years, combined grids with another championship or series, or has allowed 'invitation' class cars to run in their series or championship. Pos 2012 = Position in Chart 2012 Pos Diff = Difference in chart positions from 2011 to 2012 % 2012 = Percentage 2012 % Diff = Percentage Difference 2011 to 2012 How are the percentages calculated? The amount of cars that take part in each race (including any non finishers) is divided by the maximum amount of cars that are allowed to race on that particular circuit and for that type of car. The data is collected from the official TSL or MST results and/or the official championship websites, and each event results in a single figure which is used to calculate the average figure for the year. If additional races have to be held to accommodate all the entrants for that event, then the amount of starters in each race is ignored and the championship or series automatically scores 100% for that event, please see the full explanation and example in the section below. Additional Races - Automatic 100% Score If an individual championship or series has more entrants for an event than can start a single race, then they will have to run additional races. If this is the case then the championship or series will automatically score 100% grid capacity for that event. This is to ensure that the percentage figures are a true reflection of the health of the championship. Example: A championship wants to run a single round at a track which can race 32 cars. If there are 31 entrants then all the entrants can race in one race, which would be one round of the championship, and would score 96%. If there are 3 more entrants, 34 in total, then there would need to be two races to accommodate all the entrants, making up the one round, with a likely total of 17 drivers in each race, which would score (a much lower) 53%. Using the 53% figure would be a poor reflection of the health of the championship, the fact of the matter is that they have filled the grid and had to run an additional race to accommodate all the drivers. If the total amount of entrants for a championship or series event is less than the maxiumum amount of cars that are allowed to start a race on that track, for that type of car, but separate races are still run, then the 100% automatic score does not apply and the amount of entrants in each race will be used to arrive at an overall percentage figure for the event as per usual. Additional non championship or non series races will not be counted towards the overall percentage, but additional races, run inorder to acommodate all the competitors, will mean a 100% score for that event, regardless of whether the additional races form part of the championship or series point scoring rounds. Combined Grids / Multiple Classes Where a championship runs combined grids with another championship or series, then the event percentage figure used will be worked out from the full number of cars in the race e.g. including cars that are not in that championship. This is because the spectacle for the fans is increased by having a larger grid of cars. All classes within a championship or series count towards the grid capacity figures. If a championship runs separate classes in separate races and promotes them as separate championships, and /or with no overall championship encompassing all classes then they will be listed separately in the Top 100. Disclaimer I have made every effort to ensure that the data is accurate, but as I am only human some mistakes may have crept in. Please feel free to point these out and I will re-check and amend the chart if appropriate. |
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Club Acronym Explanations and overall percentage figures (2012)
CSCC – Classic Sports Car Club – 65.96% MGCC – MG Car Club – 65.73% HSCC – Historic Sports Car Club – 65.28% MSVR – Motor Sport Vision Racing – 64.10% 750MC – 750 Motor Club – 63.61% HRDC – Historic Racing Drivers Club – 62.34% SRCC – Sports 2000 Racing Car Club – 60.25% JEC – Jaguar Enthusiasts Club – 58.37% BRSCC – British Racing & Sports Car Club – 57.08% RDRTC – Red Dragon Race & Track Club – 56.82% SMRC – Scottish Motor Racing Club – 56.60% CCRC – Castle Combe Racing Club – 54.64% BARC – British Automobile Racing Club – 52.01% Masters – Masters Historic Racing – 50.67% M7RC – Mini 7 Racing Club – 48.82% VSCC – Vintage Sports Car Club – 44.92% AMOC – Aston Martin Owners Club – 44.38% SEMSEC - South East Motor Sport Club – 36.55% KMSC – Knockhill Motor Sport Club – 35.31% 360MRC – 360 Motor Racing Club DDMC – Darlington and District Motor Club HDI - Healey Drivers International MMC – Morgan Motor Company WRDA – Welsh Racing Drivers Association Results Summary 2012 Best Championships / Series No 1 Overall - Ma5da MX5 / Caterham Academy* – BRSCC Single Seater - Formula Vee - 750MC Tin Top - Track Day Trophy - MSVR Sportscar & GT - Ma5da MX5 - BRSCC Sprint Racing - Ma5da MX5 - BRSCC Endurance - Track Day Trophy - MSVR Classic / Historic - Guards Trophy - HSCC Highest New Entry - Ecurie GTS - MGCC Overall Average Grid Capacity - 57.09% (205 Championships or Series) 2011 to 2012 Biggest Improvers (Top 5) Welsh Sports Car & Saloon Championship (WRDA) - Up 135 positions to 65th BMW Compact Cup (750MC) - Up 133 positions to 54th 1950s Sports Racing Cars (VSCC) - Up 107 positions to 31st RAF MSA Challenge (CSCC) - Up 94 positions to 41st 2CV Championship (BARC) - Up 80 positions to 34th 2011 to 2012 Biggest Drops (Top 5) 500cc Formula 3 Owners Association (HSCC) - Down 103 positions to 172nd Ma5da MX5 Cup (MK3) (BRSCC) - Down 90 positions to 146th Grand Touring Greats (HRDC) - Down 89 positions to 123rd Britcar GT (BARC)- Down 82 positions to 120th Formula Ford GB (BRSCC) - Down 77 positions to 173rd Factoid From 2011 to 2012 there has been a jump in performance which makes the following areas of the chart more competitive - 20th to 30th - 113rd to 149th - 167th to 194th e.g. in 2011 48.13% was good for 129th in the chart, in 2012 52.74% has to be scored to achieve 129th in the chart As a result championships can improve their percentage figure but still drop down the chart, E.g. Ford XR Challenge improved 1.54% but still dropped 8 places further down the chart 2011 Best Championships / Series No 1 Overall - Ma5da MX5 – BRSCC Single Seater - FJHRA Formula Junior UK - HSCC Tin Top - Under 2 Litre Historic Touring Cars - HSCC Sportscar & GT - Ma5da MX5 - BRSCC Sprint Racing - Ma5da MX5 - BRSCC Endurance -Touring Greats - HRDC Classic / Historic - FJHRA Formula Junior UK - HSCC Overall Average Grid Capacity - 56.68% (202 Championships or Series) |
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4 Jan 2013, 22:09 (Ref:3184803) | #4 | |
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A brilliant idea. This is a fantastic effort and must have taken many hours to compile, thanks for taking the time to do so. It will be used by me for vetting which meetings to avoid and which to go to in 2013! The first few weeks of January are always an exciting time as dates and fixtures start to firm up but the task of trying to make sense of the fixture list gets harder year by year and with 205 different series/championships in the table it's no wonder.....Knowing UK motorsport it will probably be 220 championships/series this time next year.
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4 Jan 2013, 23:13 (Ref:3184879) | #5 | ||
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What a fantastic thread as im involved in the Classic Formula Ford Championship this give me a good reference as to how we are doing and i must say that in this recession to improve by 58 places to get into the top 100 im very happy with. Our Pre 90 series should get a large jump this year . In a perfect world i would like to see our championship in the top 50 this time next years and the Pre 90s up to the top 150 .We have increased our championship to 12 rounds in 2012 With 3 live TV races so lets see how we do .
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4 Jan 2013, 23:39 (Ref:3184893) | #6 | ||
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Brilliant idea, and actually the top 20 are pretty much as I would rate them from the bank...a few anomalies would be
Legends cars British gt Ginetta gt5 challenge Monoposto Which I rate very highly in terms of action... ....and why oh why isn't the smart car championship at the bottom of the list haha! Seriously though, a very good insight into club and national racing in the uk and pretty much proves that grid sizes make better racing!....oh and note there are a lot of sports/saloons championships up there which always provide brilliant racing |
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What a useful piece of analysis, thank you very much. The anorak of the year award.
While grid size may not be the only factor, this will certainly form a part of my decisions about which meetings to go to. Have you sent the MSA a copy - it ought to be a part of their consideration of championships? Regards Jim |
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5 Jan 2013, 14:50 (Ref:3185082) | #8 | ||
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Monoposto have two race grids per meeting with up to 6 classes.
For 2012 it was 5 - Mono2000 - Mono2000 Classic - Mono1800 - Mono1600 - MotoMono Usually with the 2000 classes together and then 1800/1600/bike engined together, but occasionally in other configurations depending on entries and grid capacity. Treated as a complete grid they've had very healthy grids for the last few years. |
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Very interesting results.
A couple of points though: a) The MG Car Club does not run the MG Owners Club series - BARC do. b) In 2011 There was one GTS series (Equipe GTS) in 2012 we had two, Equipe GTS run by AMOC and Ecurie GTS by MGCC. In 2011 I would think we had some capaicty grids for the single Equipe GTS series. |
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I welcome the RAFMSA making the stats due to the work of the club members to promote and bring variety to our race series. A small point but worth mentioning as it changes the statistics; we were buying grids with both BARC and Morgan Sports Car Club in 2012 rather than CSCC. In addition I was intrigued by the follow-on comments: "While grid size may not be the only factor, this will certainly form a part of my decisions about which meetings to go to." "It will be used by me for vetting which meetings to avoid and which to go to in 2013!" Our racing for example has never been about grid size, it is about providing cost effective racing primarily for RAF personnel with other services and associates (non serving) racing with us. Therefore it will always have a limited number of racers who fit within the criteria so our pool of racers is naturally capped as are our grids. Our aim is to deliver mixed ability and mixed cars racing providing, within a set of well defined rules and criteria, what we regard as 'interesting' racing. This means that the most expensive/fasted car does not necessarily win as we run a handicap system to reward the most consistent driver. Our further aim for 2013 will to be run more full handicap pitstop races which will add to the interest. The so what? is that whilst there is an incredible amount of effort here to showcase grid sizes and take the temperature of club racing via its relative grid size, that grid increase may lead to more interesting racing but it is not the only criteria. My own view is that grid size is only one factor and I would recommend those using it to determine their race attendance to use it as one factor in their decisions to visit races in 2013 not the sole criteria. Just my thoughts! Regards Brian |
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I'd query the position of the Caterham Academy within the chart as it is run as two seperate competitions and creating two champions (with, by my reckoning average grids of 24.75 and 24.25) as opposed to a single championship with a split grid.
As has been said, Monoposto is a single championship with, I believe, a combined average entry over 2012 of 40.46 (exceeded only by the Ma5da Cup and Guards Trophy). |
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have realised a made a type in my last post, this bit should have read
"For the purpose of fair comparison i've chose to ignore *the fact that some* championships/series place yearly limits on the amount of entrants, e.g BTCC, next year BRDC F4 *and I have still included them in the chart*" Thanks for the pointing out of errors, unfortunately I can't edit the chart, so have taken note of any errors and make sure things are correct the 2012-2013 edition. For Monoposto, there's no sign of an overall Monoposto championship winner or classification on the website, so the rule about them being listed separately is applyed, to be clearer in the future I will list them as "Monoposto 1800 (inc. 1600, Moto)*" and "Monoposto 2000 (inc. Classic)*" (inc = including) Monoposto 1800 is pretty well placed, 8th best single seater championship/series currently I have changed the club for MGOC to BARC in my draft chart for 2013, in checking this I realised i have made a mistake.. positions 28 and 46 in the chart above are both MGOC, the position/percentage for 2012 doesn't change but it did infact move up 35 positions not 15, as the 2011 average was 66.62% Equipe GTS 2011 was 61.65%, the overall average would be higher if it wasn't for the Silverstone GP meeting, which was 39.66% individually, two other Equipe GTS events scored around 70% I will list the RAFMSA under RAF for 'club' going forward, people definitley shouldnt use the grid sizes alone to decide what to go to, Mini Miglia / Mini Se7en for example are fantastically entertaining, but dont have high capacity grids The Caterham Academy is an interesting one as I think its going to be the exception to the rule, I cant find definitive info on their website, but it would seem that they have so many entrants that they have split them into two distinct groups for the whole year. However from my understanding they are exactly the same cars, same rules etc, so effectively (despite there being 2 champions) it's one championship where they've gone a different route than the usual A,B,C format when there are two many entrants for them all to be in one race thanks |
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Some of the Series attributed to the CSCC do not "belong" to that club. The RAFMSA and the Historic HVRA V8s. for eg. That said I'm pleased that the club has 4 series in the top 25. I think the overall average grid size for ALL CSCC Series in 2013 was 76%, not bad going.
For 2013 CSCC has changed the "Deutsche Marque" series to "Modern Classics" to recognise that that Series was one its less well supported ones, and to open out the Series to a wider range of sports, saloons and GTs from many other marques and originating countries.The 40 min race series will now be open to cars that had hitherto not been catered for in most CSCC series such as post 1990 cars and bigger engined or turbocharged saloons etc etc and, to have classes based on different capacity breaks to "Future Classics" to encourage cars out to play with us that may not have been competitive in the FC classes such as 2.5 litre 944s or Vauxhall Vectra Challenge cars or MX5s etc. |
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Incredible piece of work.
Did you not include "non" championship series such as the MR2 Mk1 series run by Red Dragon. We race at CSCC etc meeting but hire track time and are not "officially" recognised by RACMSA (i believe) Regards Woolfie |
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18 Jan 2013, 17:43 (Ref:3191160) | #17 | |
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thank you
all championships or series that fit the criteria in the blurb are included, the red dragon mk1 mr2s included in the chart, currently placed 66th |
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I just got pointed towards your work whilst browsing a historic racing today thread. I think it is brilliant and you are to be congratulated for your effort. I really don't know if anyone else does this sort of analysis. Someone else will know, but I think that when the 'MSA championship committee' does its review it looks at the less powerful raw average entries rather than your measure which is 'percentage grid fill'. Personally I think all clubs and championships should look at it your way because it is a very striking way of measuring the economic efficiency of a championship. On the whole a championship with a high grid fill ought to; 1) Be able to offer competitors lower entry fees and 2) Is more likely to be sustainable in the long term and 3) Be more fun for competitors, marshals and spectators. I have two questions about the methodology when it comes to using the data to support the thought of 'most popular'. Using the metric of percentage grid fill it gives an advantage to any series that runs on 'smaller' tracks. So a poorly supported series could run all its races at Lydden and score well. Another way of looking at this is that a 'popular' series on this basis would immediately become 'unpopular' if it replaced a Lydden round with one on the Silverstone GP circuit. Secondly, I may have misunderstood the way you have dealt with championships that are so successful that they have to put on an additional race to 'soak up the demand', but I think that you limit the impact of this to '100%'. This may suppress the true success of some championships right at the top of your chart. A not so hypothetical example would be a race on the Silverstone Grand Prix circuit where you can start 54 cars. A race with 68 entries gets split in two. Your method allocates it 100% whereas a true measure of 'popularity' ie; how many people wanted to race would give it 126% (68/54) and push it up your league table. I may have got that wrong. Shoot me down if I have. I run the risk of collecting 'nerd of the year'. However, with those caveats your work is great and I would have thought it ought to be picked up by Motor Sport News or Autosport as part of their season reviews. Have you sent it to them? Chris Sharples |
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Well put Chris . I see Historic Formula Fords have a full grid at Donington this weekend and Classic Formula Ford heading the same way North west always have two grids and James Becketts/MSVR looks good. kent engined Formula Fords should be near the top at the end of the season .
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Thanks, yes thinking about it the series higher up the chart should be able to offer lower entry fees, but some clubs average out the entry fees across all the races happening that day/weekend, which seems a bit unfair, as you would basically being subsidising someone elses racing. Good that the chart can be used for different levels of interest.
You are right about events being run on the longer tracks having quiet an impact on the average for the year, but 15 or 20 cars rattling around a long track like Snetterton 300 or Silverstone Arena GP layouts are generally a bit boring for spectators as there’s long waits whilst you wait for the field to come round. Other than Semsec I can’t think of a series/championship which races primarily on short tracks. It will be interesting to see how the BTCC and British GTs jump up the chart this year since it would seem they're going to have lots more entrys this year. I haven’t sent it to Motorsport News or Autosport, if they are reading this, they're free to use the info, although they'd probably want to PM me, since there are a few errors in the 2011 to 2012 chart posted here. You are right about the championships being capped at 100% not really being fair, if I work it out on the complete number of qualifiers this will give a better indication, and also will give a way to differentiate the 100% championships, so I can still compare the figures to 2012, I will add an extra column and include a secondary percentage figure for any championship which has split grids during the year, there’s not many of them, so not too much more work. Come Monday I will be pluming figures into the new version of the chart, I’ve checked that the 2012 grid capacities are still correct for 2013, the only one that has changed was the historic Silverstone GP layout (D), which is odd because I didn’t think it could be used anymore anyway. |
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The 'current' Historic Grand Prix circuit constitutes the Arena circuit, but with the Club chicane bypassed as opposed to any previous iterations that used Bridge corner.
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many apologies - i just must have missed it! |
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Lol, so only MSA motorsport then eh, no other motorsport could possibly exist!
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A bit harsh dear chap im also involved in Autograss racing but dont feel it should be involved in the list . I have spoken to people in Autograss and they are looking at doing the same sort of list . This chart happens to be for MSA championships if you want another have a go at doing it yourself .The amount of work that has gone into this should be praised no knocked i agree we all have the right to our views but constructive comment would be better.It has been useful for me with the Classic Formula Fords to be awear of were we fit in and has given me a target for the 2013 season. Can i just add dont forget to wave and thank the marshals on your slowing down lap without them we cant play . Peter |
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Not a problem
Was just providing my usual service! I have no quarrel with whats been done, doesnt interest me in the slightest, I clicked on it coz it said "motorsport". I kind of knew other motorsport would not feature, it usually doesnt, but the term motorsport covers everything. My only comment would be to call it something like circuit racing, as motorsport covers everything from autocross, the motocross, speedway and drag racing. Anyway, to the originator, bat on sir! |
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