Bargwanna/Tullock NZV8 TLX For Sale

[HProject]

http://my105.com/listingdetails.aspx...03&exfeature=1

What - if anything - does this mean.

[GTRMagic]

Their TL car is for sale too.

Well for sale/for lease/for them to run... makes for plenty of options for a prospective series entrant perhaps...

[NZSTfan]

Seems quite cheap at 185k.

Does anyone know what a new turn-key TLX Holden costs? I would imagine the Toyota would be a bit more due to the engine, but I am sure Promax will correct me on that if I am wrong

[bluespur]

$185k is about the cost that has always been touted as the price.

Tulloch Motorsport are a team that could build a customer car and on that basis I would expect a turn key purchase to be not much more. Certainly get change from $200k. And that is pretty good for a car in this class which has rounds at most tracks as well as a NZ wide championship

[Goat Boy]

Originally Posted by bluespur

Certainly get change from $200k. And that is pretty good for a car in this class which has rounds at most tracks as well as a NZ wide championship

Or did last season anyway. Nobody has said what is happening next season. If the TLX's go their own way there will be a grand total of 5 cars, hmmm, value for money?

[smokin'joe]

Originally Posted by Goat Boy

Or did last season anyway. Nobody has said what is happening next season. If the TLX's go their own way there will be a grand total of 5 cars, hmmm, value for money?

what was the total cost of a new supertourer ??, a series that goes to limited tracks thus limiting exposure ??

[promax]

Originally Posted by smokin'joe

what was the total cost of a new supertourer ??, a series that goes to limited tracks thus limiting exposure ??

wasn't it another 40 grand.. then you've got to put the thing together.

what's the price tag on the International Motorsport FG for sale?

[Icarus_nz]

Firstly I don't see any relevance in comparing one class to another particularly when it is apples and oranges.

The TLX avertised is a second hand race car.

If, as I believe has been mooted, Tullock intends to produce TLX cars himself then a strategy of offering a turn-key car that you can touch and feel makes some sense.

What however is the full retail replacement cost of such a car?

I will stoop a little to your level and also inquire as to how many misleading statements have been made in respect to the TLX class?

Given that neither of the two previous posters have any 'skin in the game' their transparent trolling is tiresome - as ever.

[promax]

stop making a mountain out of a mole hill! if i remember correctly.. $220,000 was the price mentioned in here for a ST that was yet to be put together. also the International Motorsport FG is up for sale.. so where's the harm in asking what they want for it? in no way was i having a go at International Motorsport or the ST class.

it's rather strange you didn't jump down anyone's throat when the new Toyota 86 class was compared with other classes? hmmm

[NZSTfan]

I thought a new ST was $206k turn-key?

But obviously when you add some of the fancy add-ons that some teams will have (cool boxes, cool suits, etc etc) then the price will no doubt ramp up a little.

Maybe Mark Petch could step in here and tell us if we wanted to buy a turn-key ST 2moro, this is how much it would cost you?

And Promax, how much for the Toyota version of the TLX? is it the same as the Holden or Ford?

[Mark Petch]

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

I thought a new ST was $206k turn-key?

But obviously when you add some of the fancy add-ons that some teams will have (cool boxes, cool suits, etc etc) then the price will no doubt ramp up a little.

Maybe Mark Petch could step in here and tell us if we wanted to buy a turn-key ST 2moro, this is how much it would cost you?

And Promax, how much for the Toyota version of the TLX? is it the same as the Holden or Ford?

A new V8ST VE2 Holden Commodore, cost is now $205K for the complete kit.

The price of a "turn key" car is $215 plus the cost of painting the exterior panels [$3K] So a fully painted Turn Key car from AV8 Motorsport is $218K all up.

[smokin'joe]

Originally Posted by Mark Petch

A new V8ST VE2 Holden Commodore, cost is now $205K for the complete kit.

The price of a "turn key" car is $215 plus the cost of painting the exterior panels [$3K] So a fully painted Turn Key car from AV8 Motorsport is $218K all up.

not too shabby. are the Fords any cheaper ????

[Jerico]

What were the lap times of the TL cars and the TLX cars at Pukekohe?

[HProject]

Originally Posted by Jerico

What were the lap times of the TL cars and the TLX cars at Pukekohe?

Ross did a 1.06.4430 during one of the races.

[promax]

i doubt you could pick up a TRD V8 for the same price as a LS3

[smokin'joe]

Originally Posted by promax

i doubt you could pick up a TRD V8 for the same price as a LS3

doubt you could make the LS3 sound as cool

[promax]

Originally Posted by smokin'joe

doubt you could make the LS3 sound as cool

the LS3's don't sound that bad agree on the Toyota's sounding cool!!

[promax]

umm pretty sure lower running costs and a car that is quicker and easier to fix was the point TLX the TLX's times are Ruapuna weren't too shabby before STM worked their magic on it. i think parity is more of interest to the TLX owners at this stage.. rather than outright lap times lol i'm pretty sure they'd throw more hp at their cars if that was all they were worried about. besides.. if the TLX's were 6 seconds faster than the TL's you guys would still complain

[bluespur]

TL is the best value at the moment. Given the prices quoted by Petch for a front running car, plus rounds throughout the country, MSNZ NZ championship to boot.

Why wouldn't you, sure looks a great package to me.

[Mark Petch]

Originally Posted by bluespur

TL is the best value at the moment. Given the prices quoted by Petch for a front running car, plus rounds throughout the country, MSNZ NZ championship to boot.

Why wouldn't you, sure looks a great package to me.

You forgot to mention the top of the North Island only, 5 round NZV8 Challenge Cup Series, that runs as a support act to V8ST, and a lot cheaper to run because there is only 2 non Auckland round's and no trips across the ditch, so TL cars make a great deal of sense these day's.

[bluespur]

no I did not - if looking for a NZ wide sponsor that series sure would not suit

and anywhat I would like to compete at all circuits possible - one trip across the water is no big deal

[promax]

fan don't be so tough on Inky go back a page and you'll see people comparing the fastest TL with the slowest TLX

[NZSTfan]

I think you'll find Promax I am not being tough on Inky, quite the opposite in fact. I am just stating some basic facts about the car he is selling, and those facts are actually in his favour for the price he is asking. I have only met Inky once, but I must say he made an immediate impact on me as being someone who was not only passionate about his sport, but is also a fairly decent guy and is engaging in his conversation. I have no problems with Inky at all, so I am not going to be 'tough' on him.

But 'nice guy' stuff aside, I would have no idea what Inky is like to deal with at the highest level of motorsport in this country (e.g. the legal battle that was on the cards between the two 'camps' in NZ).

And promax, I am aware that people where comparing TL times with TLX times a page back, but I was really answering smokin' joes question, hence why I quoted his post.

[bluespur]

I really do not understand what you expect to be sorted at AGM, it is not really the place to sort a class's issues

Also really am not sure what the issues are. NZST have races, they are managed the same as any other class. Really what is the problem

[promax]

Originally Posted by bluespur

I really do not understand what you expect to be sorted at AGM, it is not really the place to sort a class's issues

Also really am not sure what the issues are. NZST have races, they are managed the same as any other class. Really what is the problem

i guess after going out on their own.. they found the grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence.