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28 Nov 2017, 04:55 (Ref:3783674) | #1 | ||
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Jamie Whincup = GOAT
The Michael Schumacher of F1
The Richard Petty of NASCAR The Valentino Rossi of Moto GP The best of all time. Better then Peter Brock, Skaife, DJ. Nobody will beat his 7 WORLD titles. |
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28 Nov 2017, 05:05 (Ref:3783677) | #2 | ||
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Whincup is pretty good. He tends to get overlooked by fans as he is rather boring. I honestly could not remember any of Whincup's titles, apart from the latest one, it's just a haze!
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28 Nov 2017, 20:14 (Ref:3783842) | #5 | ||
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Like Brock, it is pretty easy to look good when you have the best gear and the best support in the paddock - just sayin'
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29 Nov 2017, 01:44 (Ref:3783919) | #7 | ||
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Who's first then? Dale Earnhardt or Jimmie Johnson? All 3 were at prime from different eras with different rule sets, which I'd like to think that some applies to Oz drivers, too.
Always a good conversation, as to who's the greatest, but it never comes to a conclusive decision. |
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Could win Turismo Carretera and TC2000 champs the same year, hardly that other driver could do the same... With his locals, he's more popular and legendary than even Reutemann. How appropiate that Mr Traverso played to voice for "Doc Hudson" in the Spanish neutral latino version of the movie... |
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29 Nov 2017, 05:51 (Ref:3783943) | #9 | ||
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Numbers mean nothing really. Whincup's numbers can only be compared to other drivers at the top of their game now.
You can't match him with Lowndes at his best or Skaife, and you certainly can't compare his stats with Brock, Moffat or Geoghegan. Given the opening post referenced Rossi as well, I can only assume FAS33 does indeed mean Whincup is the second best Quote:
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Skaife = total championships and Bathurst victories Brock = total championships and Bathurst victories Moffat = total championships and Bathurst victories Lowndes = total championships and Bathurst victories Ian Geoghegan = total championships Your argument all comes down to Numbers lol Beats all those drivers you mentioned in race wins, poles and Championships. Destroyed Lowndes multiple times. Last edited by FAS33; 29 Nov 2017 at 08:13. |
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29 Nov 2017, 11:30 (Ref:3784005) | #12 | ||
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The racing is completely different in all of those era's, no stats can be relevant to eachother to make a reasonable comparison. It's like saying Hamilton is better than Clark, based on what? I'm still keen to hear what makes you think Rossi is the GOAT of Motorcycle Grand Prix racing? |
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Its very easy to compare. 7 ATCC is greater than 1 ATCC (or 2,3,4,5). however at 6 maybe some other factors can come into play I really struggle to see how anyone can deny that |
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Based on the numbers, the championships won, the races won, the pole positions, Greatest Of All Time is the perfect description for Mr Whincup.
Two championship wins in a Ford. Five championship wins in a Holden. Four championship wins as Team Vodafone. Three championship wins as Red Bull. In all years bar one able to smoke his teammate(s) in the same gear. Consistent. Reliable. Able to lift his level. And he still has a year to go on his current contract to go get more results. Greatest Of All Time. Yep. |
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It helps he's in the best resourced team but he is very good, one of the best.
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I always think that referring to anything or anyone as best of ALL TIME absurd - planet has been around 4 billion years , people for 200,000 and ATC since ,oh , 1960....
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Yeah I'd be a lot happier to throw out the GOAT tag if he'd won a championship, or even a race, with another team
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Even the pyramids have been raided of their capping that originally made them nice and smooth, even so jagged pyramids showing the underlying block construction are still more impressive than the eroded mud structures of Sumerians... No wonder emperors like building monuments to their magnificence, it's roughly the only way they can hope to be remembered post-civilisation! |
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Whincup opens up on ‘scary’ personal sacrifices
Gave up love and alcohol for this championship I already thought he was the Goat. Still would be great to see him at another team |
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I wonder if he'll still feel the same way regarding next years title. Plenty of drivers got that first title off their back and didn't work so hard after that (enjoyed life more) because they'd achieved want they wanted. Nico Rosberg. I wonder if SVG beating him last year is what motivated him so much to get that 2017 title. |
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