Group A Ford Mustang ETC/DTM

gab73 · 6 Feb 2005, 04:00 (Ref:1218578)

can anyone help me with any information on the gp a mustangs raced in the world in the 80's apart from the ones in australia
links to web sites would be very helpfu

cavvy · 6 Feb 2005, 08:08 (Ref:1218623)

I believe the first Mustang raced in Aus by Dick Johnson was ex Zakspeed in Europe.

Brock · 6 Feb 2005, 08:25 (Ref:1218627)

Both of Johnsons cars where ex Zakspeed, he then rebuilt them

**FIRE** · 6 Feb 2005, 12:02 (Ref:1218705)

I can remember some Mustangs of the brothers Ruch in DTM. See: http://www.faszination-tourenwagen.de/index0.htm

Craner Curves · 6 Feb 2005, 15:48 (Ref:1218829)

I remember them too. Plus Jurgen Feucht's Buffalo Boots machine. Those were the days.

**touringlegend** · 6 Feb 2005, 15:50 (Ref:1218830)

I shall move this thread to the Historic Racing & Racing History Forum.

mcurtis26 · 6 Feb 2005, 17:28 (Ref:1218857)

Anybody else remmeber the Ruch mustang racing a lynx helicopter round Donington?

stuart05 · 7 Feb 2005, 13:02 (Ref:1219351)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcurtis26

Anybody else remmeber the Ruch mustang racing a lynx helicopter round Donington?

Sure do!!! I think that was the year that the Mustangs didn't comply to the rules fully, but the crowd loved them so they were allowed in anyway. Don't you just love the DTM!
I was a big Ruch Brothers fan, simply becasue they were clearly having a great time, and were obviously completely mad! And the cars looked and sounded fantastic too.
They actually lead a race at the Norisring just on sheer grunt, although I'm not sure what year that was.

I think that one of the Ruch brothers was last seen in the 1996 ITC driving a Mercedes.

kmchow · 6 Feb 2005, 18:32 (Ref:1218894)

How were Feucht and Ruch related? Did Feucht buy Ruch's old Mustangs? Were they working together to race in the DTM? It would be cool if Ruch was given an old '00 DTM car to race around in the DTM again!

flor · 6 Feb 2005, 19:06 (Ref:1218902)

i think he quit racing some years ago

Steve Holmes · 7 Feb 2005, 22:51 (Ref:1219837)

Bruce and Wayne Anderson from Pinepac racing ran two Group A Mustangs in New Zealand Group A. The first was the ex Don Smith/Bo Seton car from Bathurst 1984. The second was NZ built. Both ran at Bathurst. Both are still about somewhere too. The second car was for sale on Trade Me a few weeks ago.

Graham Clayton · 20 Jan 2013, 03:06 (Ref:3191616)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Holmes

Bruce and Wayne Anderson from Pinepac racing ran two Group A Mustangs in New Zealand Group A. The first was the ex Don Smith/Bo Seton car from Bathurst 1984. The second was NZ built.

Here is a photo of one of the Anderson cars at the Nissan 500:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8021817@N07/2802852564/

Is this the ex-Seton car or the NZ built car?

KA · 20 Jan 2013, 12:40 (Ref:3191734)

According to this piece on the Anderson/Pinepac cars, I think it's the Seton-built car:

http://www.nzmustang.com/Images/Hist...s/pinepac1.htm

Apparently they ran the Seton car at Pukekohe, but switched to the NZ-built car for Wellington, after they'd rolled the Seton car in practice
http://www.nzmustang.com/Images/Hist...led%201986.jpg

Graham Clayton · 14 Aug 2013, 13:23 (Ref:3289703)

Some great period footage of one of the Pinepac Mustangs:

http://youtu.be/cK1KKGxUICQ

Is this the Seton-built car or the NZ built car?

pederb · 8 Feb 2005, 01:47 (Ref:1219929)

Were can I find any information about these Mustangs?

Steve Holmes · 10 Feb 2005, 03:03 (Ref:1221577)

Scrole down this page. The yellow Pinepac Group A Mustangs are towards the bottom.

http://www.nzmustang.com/History/Rac...NZRacecars.htm

gab73 · 25 Feb 2005, 08:05 (Ref:1235328)

hi anybody have pictures of the gpa mustangs raced in europe.
or links to websites with pictiures.
does anybody know what the djr mustangs look like before he aquired them from zakspeed

cavvy · 26 Feb 2005, 21:30 (Ref:1236840)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gab73

hi anybody have pictures of the gpa mustangs raced in europe.
or links to websites with pictiures.
does anybody know what the djr mustangs look like before he aquired them from zakspeed

Dick Johnson gave the Gr A Mustang (s) a run during practice at Bathurst in 1984, the last year of Gr C - there are photos, the car was still white as delivered, try www.autopics.com.au

Jesper OH · 4 Mar 2005, 18:35 (Ref:1242548)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gab73

hi anybody have pictures of the gpa mustangs raced in europe.
or links to websites with pictiures.

http://www.zandbak.net/classic/86bergischeloewe/003.jpg

This is Reinhold Gröpper at Bergischer Löwe, Zolder, March 30th (the race date), 1986. Since he's not among the starters, this picture must be from a practice, qualifying session or warm-up session.

Jesper

gab73 · 12 May 2005, 10:42 (Ref:1299060)

does anyone have anymore info/pics/links on these cars???

glyn parham · 25 Feb 2005, 18:34 (Ref:1235965)

gab73.
I have some photos of the Group A Mustang of Belmondo taken at Spa 1984 and also some of the DTM cars at Donington in 1992, send me a PM with your email address and I will happily copy them for you.
Glyn

drivers71 · 14 Jan 2009, 15:15 (Ref:2371372)

Not sure of the year, but it was when the Alfa 155 was dominant in DTM (1993-4?). I have a video of the season review, and at Norisring (short track, but with two long straights before and after the hairpin), Nicola Larini took three laps to 'lap' Ruch. He was able to outbreak the Mustang into the tight corner on each of those three laps, but be overtaken again on the following straight. The sideways in-car footage from the Larini car clearly shows the Italian looking across in amazement at Ruch, the first time it blasted past him. Priceless!

Jesper OH · 29 Jan 2009, 20:44 (Ref:2382300)

Here's links to a couple of DTM pictures from Zolder 5th April 1992 to the best of my abbilities:

#33(?) Gerd Ruch:
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/ex...splay/15810770

#51 Jürgen Feucht:
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/ex...EyMCI7fQ/pos/1

Fred Räker raced the second Ruch Motorsport entry #34 on that same event. For some reason this would be the only time Gerd Ruch actually started a DTM race in Mustang at Zolder. He was there in both '89 and '90, but both times DNS'ed.

Jesper

KA · 30 Jan 2009, 11:29 (Ref:2382602)

More from the same source- Fred Raker's Ruch Mustang after a close encounter with the barriers at Singen:
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/pc...splay/15531899
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/pc...splay/15531920

Another shot of Ruch at Zolder
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/pc...splay/12016119

Jesper OH · 30 Jan 2009, 14:27 (Ref:2382690)

Thanks KA for those extra shots.

Notice that the Räker car seems red underneath the body work - The first Ruch entry in late '88 was a red car!

Regarding the last picture, it must be 1993 rather than 1991, since the body work is well beyond a standard Mustang, and that my previous statement regarding the Gerd Ruch/Jürgen Feucht 1992 pictures are correct.

OT I remember Singen from the Eurosport 1 hour highlights on Sunday evenings as one long demolition derby. 1991 was the first visit and survived to 1995 and believe that the '96 ITC only was the reason this race was dropped. Don't know anything about Singen, but the temporary track was settled in an industrial area, so at least the carnage didn't disturb any citizens.

Jesper

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