TCR Europe Series Season 2018 - Page 6

TR4racer · 7 Jun 2018, 10:00 (Ref:3827348)

Hyundai ride height reduced by 10mm to 90mm for Spa.

Juntos · 7 Jun 2018, 15:30 (Ref:3827423)

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Hyundai ride height reduced by 10mm to 90mm for Spa.

The ups and downs of a BoP.

TR4racer · 9 Jun 2018, 18:01 (Ref:3827847)

So, Honda is on average 3 seconds a lap slower than Audi, VW and Cupra, all VAG cars at Spa....BoP still not right and we are half way through the season. The change to Hyundai put them on a par with Honda and it is good to see Hyundai in a better place, still slower than the VAG cars though...

Rubio · 9 Jun 2018, 18:29 (Ref:3827852)

Oh, come on, in Zandvoort everyone except Hyundai and Alfa Romeo were close, including Honda.

Spa is a completely different circuit, you can't reshuffle completely BoP after every race on different types of circuits.

The only thing I feel is that Audi was given a bit too much of a weight break.

Want to see Hyundais pace at Vila Real

TR4racer · 9 Jun 2018, 20:43 (Ref:3827864)

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Spa is a completely different circuit, you can't reshuffle completely BoP after every race on different types of circuits. l

So why was the Hyundai given a revised BoP just before Spa then if you “can’t reshuffle completely BoP after every race”? It is what is happening already.

Juntos · 9 Jun 2018, 22:14 (Ref:3827875)

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The only thing I feel is that Audi was given a bit too much of a weight break.

Perhaps Vernay is "too much" for the rest.

By the way what a "magic move" of Josh Files at La Source

TR4racer · 10 Jun 2018, 08:24 (Ref:3828029)

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By the way what a "magic move" of Josh Files at La Source

Given your great racing knowledge and experience you could tell us all what you would have done under the same circumstances....

ChrisMarks · 10 Jun 2018, 08:44 (Ref:3828036)

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By the way what a "magic move" of Josh Files at La Source

I'd say that was a genuine racing incident, however Tassi on Møller, was just dumb as hell... glad Tassi was penalized for that, it was a very dangerous move and could easily have ended with Møller having a totaled car.... I honestly thought Tassi had improved his race craft... guess not..

TR4racer · 10 Jun 2018, 09:51 (Ref:3828039)

So Juntos, what is your view of the “magic move” by Vernay?

Juntos · 10 Jun 2018, 14:09 (Ref:3828085)

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So Juntos, what is your view of the “magic move” by Vernay?

Unacceptable beginner's mistake.

By the way the Giant Serbian did very soundy accusations to Hyundai's BoP but today we all watched a fine win from... an Hyundai!

Rubio · 10 Jun 2018, 14:22 (Ref:3828094)

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Unacceptable beginner's mistake.

By the way the Giant Serbian did very soundy accusations to Hyundai's BoP but today we all watched a fine win from... an Hyundai!

Every Hyundai driver in Spa says "BoP is a joke bla-bla" but forgets that Hyundai is faster than Honda, which recently won in Zandvoort. Here with very long straights Honda and Hyundai struggles were expected.

BoP may be just about right. But still need to see how Hyundais behave in WTCR in Vila Real to be able to make proper judgement.

Peugeots really made some ground. Shame for Richard, but at least there is some consistncy after almost the same penalty for Kroes in Zandvoort

TR4racer · 10 Jun 2018, 15:02 (Ref:3828104)

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BoP may be just about right. But still need to see how Hyundais behave in WTCR in Vila Real to be able to make proper judgement.

Vila Real is another street circuit so I am not sure what we will see different to Marrakesh. I think BoP will be adjusted again before Vila Real because they never got it anywhere near right at Adria where manufacturers may well have been sandbagging. Just my view

Rubio · 10 Jun 2018, 15:04 (Ref:3828105)

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Vila Real is another street circuit so I am not sure what we will see different to Marrakesh. I think BoP will be adjusted again before Vila Real because they never got it anywhere near right at Adria where manufacturers may well have been sandbagging. Just my view

Vila Real has got completely different layout compared to Marrakech with a good amount of the lap on full throttle.

TR4racer · 11 Jun 2018, 06:32 (Ref:3828276)

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Vila Real has got completely different layout compared to Marrakech with a good amount of the lap on full throttle.

Thanks for this, I hadn't understood the track layout correctly.

Sodemo · 12 Jun 2018, 11:39 (Ref:3828628)

One of the minor issues I have with the TCR coverage is that you just can’t hear the cars. I watched the Spa races last night and its just silence until they get right close to the camera positions, and even then they are drowned out by the commentator. They really need to sort their audio levels out.

Andrew Abbott · 12 Jun 2018, 14:24 (Ref:3828655)

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One of the minor issues I have with the TCR coverage is that you just can’t hear the cars. I watched the Spa races last night and its just silence until they get right close to the camera positions, and even then they are drowned out by the commentator. They really need to sort their audio levels out.

I guess you're not going to be happy with the future being electric then...

ivozet · 20 Jun 2018, 17:02 (Ref:3832160)

So, no points for Comini. Subaru - bad, Honda - worst

**FIRE** · 24 Jun 2018, 21:07 (Ref:3832947)

Entertaining races.
Because of that and the Belgian teams/drivers they should put Spa on the WTCR calendar.

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So, no points for Comini. Subaru - bad, Honda - worst

What was the reason for his DNF?

Mark0994 · 25 Jun 2018, 12:07 (Ref:3833011)

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What was the reason for his DNF?

Problem with electronics

Juntos · 26 Jun 2018, 22:31 (Ref:3833255)

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Problem with electronics

The so-called JAS manufacturing problems...

Juntos · 7 Jul 2018, 17:03 (Ref:3835233)

I didn't see Borkovic crying about the BoP this weekend in Hungary.

Mark0994 · 8 Jul 2018, 07:38 (Ref:3835351)

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I didn't see Borkovic crying about the BoP this weekend in Hungary.

It's all good when he is winning. He is like that his whole career.

Cinghio44 · 8 Jul 2018, 08:56 (Ref:3835367)

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It's all good when he is winning. He is like that his whole career.

The BOP seem quite right. It's a good battle between Azcona and Borkovic, the spaniard yesterday was a bit unlucky but he kept the car on the road and score vital points.

High tension between Briché and Tassi

GM10 · 8 Jul 2018, 11:58 (Ref:3835406)

Finally, today I saw drive throughs raining on the track. Ridiculous track limits.

Mark0994 · 8 Jul 2018, 17:02 (Ref:3835476)

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Finally, today I saw drive throughs raining on the track. Ridiculous track limits.

Agree, but in first two laps every single driver has cut turns 6 and 7, and only 5-6 drivers get drive through...

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