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Best post in the thread I really hope Quinn or someone associated with Quinn reads this post from a passionate fan....I plan on apporaching Quinn to have a few words @ Winton I really like Quinn from his releasing the chocolate hostages comment to his blunt honesty in that interview In Pit Lane....he is great for Australian motorsport but he is also part of the problem......we dont seem to listen or learn from the mistakes of the past eg Light Car Club of Victoria, Eastern Creek, Bob Jane Calder Park V The world. Quinn has an golden oppurtunity to have a truly international race that could be huge if he only met halfway |
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Everyone seems to be forgetting two very important things - timing and funding !
The cost's involved are horrendous - twelve hours of continuous racing is approximately the equivalent of two full seasons of ordinary racing... Now add to this the fact that the race is non championship, has huge entry fees and a comparatively low prizefund - presuming a) you finish and b) you actually win followed by a massive and costly rebuild with less than 2 weeks turnaround to your first championship round at Clipsal. It couldnt have been made much harder for a local Porsche or GT entrant to compete when you really think about it... |
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21 Feb 2012, 23:05 (Ref:3029189) | #1003 | |
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Easy fix, make it a round of the local championship. Guarantees a good local field and then add the internationals into the mix and we could end up with a 50 car GT grid
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how might you manage driver points from an enduro such as the B12 and balance them against an individual sprint round? |
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Mr Quinn is under absolutely no obligation to run anywhere, even in his own GT series. I just dont get how some of the comments in this thread are pointing 'blame' towards Mr Quinn for not supporting the B12 when he has done so, many times and to his own financial cost in the past. Go pick on Holden for not supporting the event with the same level of support they previuosly gave the Monaros. |
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I think the 12hour format is perfect, just needs a bit of tweaking regarding cost and timing to make it more viable for the local GT guys to compete. Then we should see 35-40 cars competing. |
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22 Feb 2012, 01:21 (Ref:3029223) | #1007 | ||
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It's not about blame or obligation, its about starting something now, getting this race to an acceptable level, before it dies and we have to wait five or so years before we start all over again. The field this weekend is very strong, but its not where it should be, not in terms of depth, variety, and in particular the lack of local entries is disappointing. |
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22 Feb 2012, 01:49 (Ref:3029230) | #1008 | ||
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As for driver points, I'm sure they could figure this out. The V8's manage it OK. As for International entries, simple, there are two points scores up for grabs, outright event only, and championship. Non championship competitors don't get championship points. So for example, an International wins the race but a championship car comes second. The International gets 1st place points for the event & the championship car gets second place points for the event. The Championship car gets 1st place points for the Championship. etc. And by running a much bigger field of both local and international this will raise the exposure of the event to the point where maybe they can attract a few big sponsors to include some prize money. |
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22 Feb 2012, 02:27 (Ref:3029239) | #1009 | ||
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Quinn is a racer he travels all of the country let alone the world supporting events and he stepped up took over GT after the fiasco @ Eastern Creek...clearly O'Brien & Quinn have different points of view but have a synergy between each other that just need to work together for the greater good otherwise the event will go backwards I'm just going to have a chat to him from a spectators point of view....I had a nice chat with him @ PI last year and he was very approachable. |
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22 Feb 2012, 04:34 (Ref:3029258) | #1011 | ||
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Is the 80k for the B12 + the full GT series scudd?
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The easiest solution to the scheduling problem would be to have the 12hr as round 1 of the GT Championship, in lieu of Clipsal. Unfortunately though, I'm not sure the majority of the GT competitors would be happy, as there's realistically only about 10 local GT teams that'd be in a position to run in the 12hr.
Of course, the ones that couldn't finacially afford to run their own car could possibly pick up a drive with another team. |
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22 Feb 2012, 04:55 (Ref:3029261) | #1013 | |
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I'll go the other way, retain Clipsal as a twilght event and have it as a 2 hour.
Bathurst should be included too subject to calender as a double points event. Perfect world would like to see (no particular order) Round 1 or 2 Bathurst/Clipsal Round 3 Phillip Island Round 4 Townsville Round 5 Eastern Creek Round 6 Sandown Round 7 Phillip Island Round 8 Bathurst (after V8SC shoot out) Take out the goat track of Winton |
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22 Feb 2012, 05:04 (Ref:3029262) | #1014 | ||
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LOL just heard the klien interview! Definatly need the RADIO LE MANS boys down next year!
I agree with having the BH12 HR as a round of the gt championship. I reckon double points for the highest aussie gt team to finish, so even if u had 5 euro teams in front of you and you were the 1st Aussie gt team you would get max points. btw scudd is there prize money for coming in top 3 this weekend? |
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reading John dagys twitter and he reckons entry list is now down to 27??
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I doubt they would want to drop clipsal, the exposure they get in Adelaide would be hard to beat. That's a pretty big, successful event especially for spectator turn out.
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More dark running and a long weekend to help with the return trip out of Bathurst? |
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22 Feb 2012, 05:47 (Ref:3029270) | #1019 | ||
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Possibly, but then you risk the chance of some overseas teams not wanting to come out because they've already started their own domestic series.
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22 Feb 2012, 05:58 (Ref:3029271) | #1020 | ||
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john dagys claiming that the nissan GTR is also out.
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Here's hoping there aren't any more withdrawals. Edit: Bleekemolen posted some images of the Erebus/Black Falcon spares cachet: Hadn't realised they'd altered the livery. This is a pretty significant improvement. Last edited by R4z3rw33n; 22 Feb 2012 at 09:16. |
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I was more wondering if the GT ranks need crowd exposure for sponsors or are there more rich folks taking the chance to drive fast cars at our best tracks, or a mixture of all the above??
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