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Positive - TUSC gets it that they need to be open to cars that race elsewhere.
Negative - TUSC lobbying to make P2 the new DP with Carbon Fibre tubs. If this moves forward LMP3 will be more technically interesting, and probably as fast, based on tire decisions. |
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Agreed. The funny thing is right now in the Michelin Racing Tire book they list a DP tire. See page 4 of the attached link http://www.michelinman.com/mediabin/...orts_Final.pdf
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so dp it is. ****ing *******s.
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So will they bop the chassis then?
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IMSA’s VP of technical regulations, Scot Elkins, said. “It’s very important and it’s something that everyone wants.”
Yes, Scot. And most important, it needs to be something the Fans want, or you will be out of a job. What all the rest of the world wants for their Second-Tier class, you are getting as the top-tier class. If you continue to encourage them to build glorified DPs, you will be where Rolex was ... broke and lonely. |
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For the bodies, they are looking at the ability of manufacturers to include styling cues, like the Aston did perhaps with the Lola? Yes they said similar to what DP has, but then Elkins said: Quote:
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Yes, Elkins said most manufacturers appeared to be in agreement of utilizing the same bodywork regulations globally, with the design cues similar to the proposed LMP1 Evo concept in 2006-07.
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Concerning whether manufacturer bodywork would interchange on all different chassis: If ALL 2017 P2 cars are required to use the same tub, then of course the bodywork will all interchange. Basically an INDYCAR, with a canopy, fenders and cheesy bodykits. |
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Me too. But it seems 'the manufacturers' don't.
I wonder what those ten manufacturers are made up of. Presumably the current chassis constructors are there, Oak, Oreca, HPD, but so will giants like Ford and Nissan. Would be interesting to know who has what opinion on what. Struggling to get my head around what 'manufacturer bodykit' is for Oreca or Oak, for example. But yes, it does sound like DP Gen 5 instead of P2. Pity to lose all the lovely new coupes that are coming out next year. Good luck trying to sell those with a remaining lifespan of 2 years. |
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Scot Elkins on Twitter ....April 23rd. Responding to fans concerned with the rumor of a "spec" tub.
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If said manufacturer also wants to win with it, there is. There's only one fast way to cut air and it's the all wind tunnel way and not the "looks nice" way. But to me this also sounds more like next gen DPs. Would be pretty hard to regulate the kind of LMP evo look.
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Now it's going to be a rant of mine as I know that the 2017 LMP2 rules will mostly have spec parts, not to mention having the safety standards of the current LMP1 cars.
However, I think the class itself should aim for privateers more instead of those factory-backed ones like Chip Ganassi and any other Corvette DP team. After all, it was designed for privateers in mind, unlike the LMP1-L. |
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I guess we have to assume now that the teams using the current Corvette DP will continue with whatever 2017 P2 concept car GM comes up with. I don't know if that will come with extra support from the factory compared with what Ligier or Oreca could offer, but for the IMSA teams it just might.
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2017 P2 talks is going the SGT/DTM route with a Spec CF Tub but MR instead of FR.Any Company can make the Spec CF Tub(must pass ACO/WEC crash test).
Horsepower range will be 550-600hp so the 2017 P2 will be about 2-3 seconds faster than the P2 now(450hp).To keep it faster than the GT classes. The major question is Spec Racing Engine(2.0L I4 Turbo) like SGT/DTM or Production Base Engine.The camp is split at the moment but most likely stay production based to match engine to body.(Corvette/Small Block NA V8,GT40/Ecoboost,NSX/V6 Turbo). |
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I think the look of the cars will be good. But this is not the problem The problem is the large number of Spec parts. |
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I agree about the spec parts...
Edit: I mean I am against it. The P2 cars however have gotten expensive, how do they curb that? Last edited by Rcz; 8 Oct 2014 at 21:22. |
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So if we see direct manufacturers involvement in P2 an Am category can't be far away...
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