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When I think of the PC class … I picture a yellow flag, eternally waving. Substitute "P2" for PC" and you see the future if IMSA follows that path. |
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I don't know if the LMP2s will grow or shrink in number if DPI and LMP2 are split up into individual classes. On one hand, they won't likely be candidates for overall wins, but the class might attract more pro-am teams possibly.
One thing that I'm curious about is how much of a performance split there will be between the two classes. |
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As has been noted before, they knew this was going to be the case going into it. It's little presumptive to say that they'll be peeved about something they were aware of from the start. If they weren't okay with it, there'd have been no program to begin with. |
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or ... they knew all along that the racing business is politics, and they figured that if they whined loud and long enough they'd get their ways later.
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10 Jul 2018, 17:49 (Ref:3835934) | #332 | ||
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Tim Cindric has already "complained" publically earlier this year.
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Oh, they'll COMPLAIN in the hopes of getting favorable BoP, but they knew what things were going into it so it's nothing more than playing the previously-referred political game. Being okay with a system does not mean they aren't going to try and game it to get an advantage. |
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That distinction is pretty irrelevant to the point, to be honest. They still knew how it was going to be when they started the program, after all. |
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Its not like this has ever been an open formula. They knew it was going to be BOP'd based off the global P2 platform
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Well if the idea to split DPI and LMP2 is on the table still, one thing nobody has mentioned is that they could be split in scheduling too. LMP2 could be left out of races such as Long Beach or something else where DPI still races at.
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12 Jul 2018, 07:19 (Ref:3836227) | #338 | |
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The argument works both ways for the dpi teams. Sure they entered knowing that the lmp2's were the pace to be bop'd by. They can also say that the dpi's should be able to go faster than now because they are actually slower than lmp2. And if imsa knows who is propping them up, they should probably listen to them. If GM says they think they should separate the classes and then Acura agrees, it's hard to argue with them since they provide a lot of the advertising and are big partners. Lmp2 teams not so much.
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Not exactly sure whether to put this, but it’s too important not to share in the sport car section as Sonoma is a track that a lot of people think should return to the IMSA schedule.
Indycar has a spot to fill on its 2019 schedule and one possibility is racing at both Sonoma and Laguna Seca. Marshall Pruett has a piece asking “Can two Bay Area Indy Car events thrive?” The short answer is “no.” Bookmark this story because you might want to pull out the quotes and use them later. Some samples (there's more good stuff in the story): Marshall Pruett on the local market: Quote:
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I think it could work if they were at different times of the year. If Sonoma imsa race was around long beach in spring and bbn laguna in late summer, I think it would be big enough at both. Or maybe I'm just a dreamer who lives 90 miles from one and 180 from the other!!
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I also like the idea of the Daytona 24 being a non points optional race for GTD. |
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PwC not in northern California this year. Portland this week. Not with IndyCar at Sonoma and the California 8hr is on shaky ground. Advertised as PwC weekend, but is really not. They finish back east at the glen I believe this year. Good luck seeing very many teams at Laguna for the intercontinental gt..
The imsa teams already come to the west coast twice each year, not sure how heading up to laguna or Sonoma after long beach really adds much, as the come back in Sept anyway... Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk |
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I wouldn't split the prototype class. I think it works fine. We have nice mix of different cars and teams that over the course of the year each have their chances to win some races. I don't know what the DPi teams might be complaining about because the whole class is based on BoP. And LMP2 is the performance benchmark. And like to see some euro teams come and play. It spices things up a bit.
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Looks like ESM is out for next year.
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Seeing as how Brown paid out of pocket for the engines, manufacturer fee and modifications to the chassis I don't see where they can find anyone willing to pony up that money who isn't already racing in IMSA. But perhaps they could re-use their Ligiers, get rid of the modifications and just use the Gibson engine.
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16 Jul 2018, 16:49 (Ref:3836965) | #349 | |
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I liked ESM the best when they were running Ferrari 458s in GTLM. Too bad we never got see the Patron livery on a 488.
For 2019, suppose its up to Scott Sharp to pull a miracle to keep the team going. Has there ever been a "hit or miss" team like ESM? They are either really really good or really really bad. |
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16 Jul 2018, 17:41 (Ref:3836977) | #350 | |
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It's just a racing team, but this is sad. I was psyched when Scott Sharp picked up from Duncan Dayton, and even more psyched when they went to P-class in USUCKer. But really ... it was Ed Brown all along.
I guess maybe after all these years he sobered up and said, "I've been spending millions on What???" |
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