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20 Jul 2018, 10:59 (Ref:3837671) | #26 | |
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Isn't the livery that the Monza for sale is in the wrong one?
It is portrayed as the one Brock drove against AJ in 1982 (which was later sold to Bryan Thomson and turned into a Supra, owned by the Wall's since 1990), yet is the one that was supposed to driven in IMSA by Brock and raced once in Brock's hands in a plain red livery sporting #27. |
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The collection at Dreamworld contained quite a few "Tribute Cars". The VP Commodore was an auto!
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Which is why I'm confused as to the outpouring of emotions over it all.
Wasn't there someone on here with a bonafide HDT chassis that was denied a COD because someone did a jam job on a replica of the same car? |
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Are you thinking of the 1980 ATCC winning VB Commodore?
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21 Jul 2018, 08:05 (Ref:3837792) | #31 | |
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Not sure on the specifics, but it was from that era.
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Expectations for the sale of the 1984 VK Group C car is now being revised to $2M +.
https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/08/03...-in-bathurst2/ |
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A whole lot more you would think, but then how much?
Luckily for the Bathurst museum, the value of their donation would now be 'priceless'. |
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3 Aug 2018, 09:34 (Ref:3841038) | #37 | |
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With its questionable provinence, I can't see how it's worth $2mil.
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3 Aug 2018, 09:35 (Ref:3841040) | #38 | |
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During the last ever Group C Race - Brock: "Perhaps one of my cars will finish up in a museum; the other car may finish up just getting stripped and used for bits and pieces, maybe it will be sold":
https://youtu.be/g8qdXiaTnLk?t=7m |
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The firewall chassis number (#7) which authenticates it back to the original HDT build; plus all the ($$$) restoration work involved bringing it back to 1984-race condition - surely makes it worth an awful lot. |
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It's being pushed as the actual #05.
You'd want to make 100% sure it is what you say it is, before commanding that kind of money. |
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The car on display at the Bathurst Motor racing museum should show no signs of repair. I am not sure if this has ever been investigated. |
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Those who should know which car is which, aren't letting the truth be known.
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Where is that photo taken??? It's not at Bathurst......
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If you read through the original investigation by Bertie Street, and the follow up article a few years later in AMC, it really leaves little doubt which car is which.
The car up for auction would be worth more pretending to be #05 than it ever would be as #25 |
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4 Aug 2018, 02:03 (Ref:3841272) | #48 | |
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05 is missing a flair, it didn't have it's left rear stoved in by George Fury at Hell Corner though as happened with #25
Yes, would they be predicting this car getting $2 million if it had a #25 on the doors? |
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There's no secret about the controversy surrounding the two HDT VK Group C cars, however it is to pointed out at the auction in any case:
https://www.news.com.au/technology/i...78b782343bfe09 Quote:
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Pin has pretty much labelled it as a fraud. The Bathurst Museum car is the legit one
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