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5 May 2015, 16:23 (Ref:3534392) | #351 | |
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Sorry for the misquote. 4 classes for the enduors. 3 for the regular TUSC races (P, LMPC, GTLM). While GT3 goes with the sprints.
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From a business point of view (as most team owners do) the current PC car is a money maker, investment done some 5 years ago, continuing with the current car will be financially sound for them. From a sporting - and fans - perspective not so much.
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Nothing yet about the format of the races although a one hour maximum is guaranteed, possibly with a mandatory pitstop to accommodate potential driver changes - if so I'll expect it to be a fixed time stop (45 seconds or 1 minute for example) so that single drivers won't have an advantage over driving pairs. No refueling or tire changes needed. Very much like the Blancpain Sprint series format. |
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5 May 2015, 16:59 (Ref:3534405) | #353 | |
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Also, Toyo Tires might be looking into a future participation (GTLM):
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2015/0...-for-tusc.html |
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5 May 2015, 19:13 (Ref:3534441) | #356 | |
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A dedicated Pro-Am P2 class would squeeze some of the Pro-Am P-Class teams—suddenly they would longer have even a chance at an overall (Shank Racing, for instance) or, if joining was optional, would still create a lot of traffic composed of nearly identical cars, so Pro-Am P-teams would no longer stand out visually—I am sure the Shank car gets a lot more eyeballs on it now than a 2017 version would, if it were one of a dozen-and-a-half.
The obvious solution, if there has to be a second prototype class, and not P1/P2, is to import P3, but I can certainly see why PC owners would be against that—the current PC class is very much not broken, and as Coach Ep noted, a real moneymaker for the teams which have paid off their cars (though the bill for spares .... ) If IMSA is so worried about making racing affordable, giving PC a mild makeover would be a lot smarter. As for fans liking closed cars better ... which fans? The ones who already watch and aren't going to much care one way or another, or the prospective fans, who aren't going to watch because of PC or P3? |
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5 May 2015, 19:28 (Ref:3534448) | #357 | ||
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Sigh... It WAS NOT Conti. They stated on several occasions they could and wanted to make P2 tire, and was concerned that their products were getting a bad rap because the wrong type tires were being used on P2 cars. It was IMSA that mandated DP tires on P2 cars. |
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5 May 2015, 19:36 (Ref:3534452) | #358 | ||
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The mentioned comments you're referring to is PR talk (although I've never read they were "concerned that their products were getting a bad rap because the wrong type tires were being used on P2 cars." but I might have overlooked that.) |
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The tire game is 100% IMSA. Conti are doing what IMSA asks, and what they are paying them for. |
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5 May 2015, 20:59 (Ref:3534492) | #360 | |
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I'd go a step further ... Conti makes a 'good" tire, just not a 'fast" tire. What IMSA (and GA prior) wanted was a stable, long-lasting tire, Not necessarily a tire which gave peak performance. From what I hear, the DP Contis are a little hard but they don't have a narrow window of performance and then start to suck harder and harder, which means teams can set up a car and know it will work well throughout a stint.
I see no reason why Conti couldn't compete with Michelin and Dunlop if it chose to. And maybe Conti execs are just as happy that they don't have to spend as much as other companies to constantly develop faster, stickier tires to meet a wide range of track conditions ... but there is no reason to believe they couldn't if they wanted to. |
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5 May 2015, 21:12 (Ref:3534499) | #361 | |
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The Hoosier program in this series is no different to any other league utilizing spec tires. When there's no tire competition involved or even exclusive-secret-factory-deals like with Michelin in GTE and LMP1, there is no need to develop anything more than just standard product that works. By it's very nature. Except if you are Pirelli in that one series, but that is different. Also, since in this series you can have 1000 people at pitstops and multi-stinting tires is totally irrelevant, they don't need to last particularly long either - so the demands of IMSA for Hoosier aren't particularly high. Just build something so you keep the title next to the series title and we instruct people at track to keep praising how awesomely super your product is.
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5 May 2015, 21:56 (Ref:3534519) | #362 | |
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What will make way for the GT3 sprint series next year? I think no GTD in non-NAEC races thats what.
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5 May 2015, 22:02 (Ref:3534522) | #363 | |
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Nothing is my guess. It'll be an additional racing series 'under the IMSA umbrella'. I expect no major schedule changes from this year.
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6 May 2015, 19:16 (Ref:3534874) | #366 | |
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(possible) Porsche GTLM and GTD (GT3) entry developments.
We might lose Falken (which would be a big bummer!): http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/11642...for-the-future Expect to see a couple of the new GT3 challengers on the grid at Daytona: http://sportscar365.com/gt/new-porsc...na-2016-debut/ |
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7 May 2015, 12:46 (Ref:3535145) | #368 | |
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3 factory programs (2 in WEC and 1 in TUSC) is clearly stretching Porsche's resources to a maximum, 4 (+GTD in TUSC) will be too much. If the GTLM factory program is ended, let's hope CORE wants to continue to run the cars, possibly as factory supported team.
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I'm certain CORE would like to continue to run the cars, but the problem will be raising the required Sponsorship. I think they might have problems coming up with such funding, unless it was someone like Toyo, as you just aren't going to be able to argue value to a major sponsor. |
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7 May 2015, 14:35 (Ref:3535165) | #370 | ||
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Value in the context of Sponsorship leaves much open to debate . I can tell you that for GTLM prior to this years Rolex 24 that a certain Red car team had Sponsorship proposals out for 5.5 Million $$$ for full season in TUDOR . Now I guess the question is " What Value is it to my Company as far as getting a Return on Investment " ?
If anyone cares to see it PM me and I will send you a copy . |
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16 May 2015, 12:22 (Ref:3538020) | #372 | ||
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A Bentley Daytona Prototype? Maybe Bugatti was right.
And what's this about homologating the Continental GT3 for GTLM? http://sportscar365.com/imsa/tusc/ex...ions-for-2017/ |
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16 May 2015, 12:26 (Ref:3538022) | #373 | ||
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Well, from 2017 it would be a P2... and with the new rules, likely what it means is a Bentley sponsored car, or a Bentley skin over something else... But nothing really Bentley about it. The proposed rules are to have just four chassis manufacturers for P2, with likely the ability to "brand" them with different bodywork in TUSC. ACO rules call for a single engine for all P2, though it is probably going to be different in TUSC.
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Facebook is driving me mad and the same faff has shown up here, they're looking at a DP not a P2!
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