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“We’re trying to close the doors without embarrassing ourselves, the France family and embarrassing (the) Grand American Series,” he said in the deposition. “There is no money. There is no purse. There’s nothing.” |
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8 Nov 2014, 19:18 (Ref:3472886) | #1178 | |
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Dagys reporting that Road America, Mosport, CotA and VIR events have all been reduced by, erhm, five minutes (), while Lime Rock is two hours.
I bet Scott and boys wasted the whole work week in "negotiations" for those huge entertainment increasing + cost saving calendar adjustments that will no doubt make the difference (for FOX ads) |
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8 Nov 2014, 19:34 (Ref:3472887) | #1179 | |||
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What did they get in return? That's two more 90 sec commercial breaks... |
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“We’re trying to close the doors without embarrassing ourselves, the France family and embarrassing (the) Grand American Series,” he said in the deposition. “There is no money. There is no purse. There’s nothing.” |
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Had anybody else been following the conversations on Twitter regarding driver ratings in PC and gtd? Today I saw DHH mention IMSA may have actually not released their rules correctly and they will clarify on Monday.
I see two possible scenarios here, 1) they honestly put out a press release that didn't release the information in their new rules correctly or 2) they saw the backlash from teams and pay drivers and are now reconsidering. I'm not sure which scenario is better? |
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8 Nov 2014, 20:39 (Ref:3472897) | #1181 | ||
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3) The bulletin is a little unclear in its legalese wording and people are freaking out about what they imagine it's saying. New rule appears to be: only one Silver/Bronze driver required, except if you have five drivers at Daytona in which case you need two S/B drivers. You can have more if you need the money. ETA: Oh, there's a big messy table of minimum drive times that looks ripe for confusion/errors. |
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8 Nov 2014, 20:44 (Ref:3472900) | #1182 | ||
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Reduction of five minutes will put a whole race into a three hour time slot.
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5min FOX pre-race 2h45min race (of which ~30-45 minutes are commercials (+informercials around 10 minutes me thinks)) 5min FOX post-race = 2h55min + rounding up the end with more commercials = 3 hours 2h40min changes nothing really, same 3h slot with different ads placement ESPN used to have longer pre/post for ALMS few years ago, even if for web, so there it could've worked bit better maybe edit: of course, if IMSA were orchestrating GWC finishes in those races, it might make "sense" for TV Last edited by Deleted; 8 Nov 2014 at 21:01. |
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8 Nov 2014, 21:31 (Ref:3472911) | #1184 | |
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Five-minute difference makes no real difference except to free up five more minutes for commercials--or a few commercials and a few more minutes of talking, where fans would prefer more racing. These clueless losers seemingly cannot get anything right.
Really, who wants Less racing? And for those parties which do (say, small-budget teams struggling to pay for the longer season) is Five Minutes going to get their budgets in line? The top class has been a joke since before the first race, top teams are pulling out to go to other series, so why not rearrange the deck chairs? Even if they managed to make Fox happier ... Unless it means more races on Fox1, it doesn't really mean anything, for fans or for sponsors. I am tired and cranky and being harsh, but sometimes i get fed up with this stuff. How about some positive news, TUSC? Since September 2013 the only good news has been hiring Hindy and co. |
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Just for the fun of fleshing it out, the five fewer minutes corresponds, as follows, under green flag conditions (for P cars):
Road America= 3 laps Austin= 3 laps VIR= 3-4 laps Mosport= 4-5 laps Roughly, what are the fuel windows for each class? With all the caution they so frequently have, it can be tough to get a good read on that. Also, I can't follow the T&S screens like many of you guys can. |
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9 Nov 2014, 00:39 (Ref:3472975) | #1187 | |
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Ahhhh ,... this is being done as a precursor to new BoP machinations. If the P2 cars get an edge in speed, the DPs will reel them in with better fuel mileage and the management can tell the complainers, 'Well, we made the P2s faster. If they can't win they just aren't as good as DPs. Not our fault."
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9 Nov 2014, 04:10 (Ref:3473047) | #1188 | |
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I think they should use the Laguna Seca 2hour split race model for throughout the 2016 season. Except for the Eduros and Road America
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9 Nov 2014, 15:21 (Ref:3473152) | #1189 | ||
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I think you idea is a good one though and should be considered by IMSA in 2016. It will be feasible by then with full GT3's coming in. So yeah more all GT's please in 2016. |
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9 Nov 2014, 16:00 (Ref:3473156) | #1190 | |
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VIR will be $85-90 again and with 15 total GT cars confirmed now, it's not worth it at all.
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9 Nov 2014, 16:12 (Ref:3473159) | #1191 | ||
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I still have to stick with my sense that, if the track can hold them, the full field should be running. Yes, I would rather have one 160-165-minute race with all classes than two 120-minute races with things split, whenever such is feasible. I want to see my favorite classes running for the maximum amount of track time; 160 minutes is more than 120.
Also, Austin would look pathetic with only half the cars out there. At tracks like Laguna Seca and Mosport, a huge amount of the spectacle is the graphic illustration of the speed differentials between the GTs and the Prototypes. In addition, at a track like Laguna Seca, if it's the GTs and Prototypes together in their separate races, the lack of speed differential makes overtaking quite difficult, even, sometimes, traffic from the other class. VIR is more open, which helps overtaking, and let's face it, the drivers take just that extra measure of precaution there, because they know what consequences WILL be awaiting them if they throw it off the road. VIR also just has so many particularly tricky places, compared to a number of the other tracks, where if you throw it off the road, it is going to be a big off. Last edited by Purist; 9 Nov 2014 at 16:21. |
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9 Nov 2014, 19:05 (Ref:3473218) | #1192 | ||
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At this point with the low car counts so far they should just run all classes together at laguna for four hours or at least three would be nice.two split races with less than 20 cars each is not looking good right now,might as well make ctcs the head line race with more cars and a longer race,heck even the gt3 cup will have more cars if the grid continues this way.
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13 Nov 2014, 15:06 (Ref:3474249) | #1195 | |
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Flying Lizard confirmed for Daytona only:
http://sportscar365.com/imsa/tusc/fl...daytona-plans/ OAK probably not going to run much in TUSC: http://sportscar365.com/imsa/tusc/oa...uture-in-tusc/ With Shank getting his car after Daytona, this means we won't have any full-season P2 cars in the series, and likely won't have a team that could compete for an overall win. I wonder if they can rig up an online stream that shows everything but the P class since it's not really worth watching at this point? |
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13 Nov 2014, 16:31 (Ref:3474264) | #1196 | ||
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GTLM will be the same minus the Viper which really stinks to be honest. SRT leaving I think is by far the biggest blow to the series. Much more than ESM, Oak, Turner, or Flying Lizard. It still feels like a punch in the gut to this day. LMPC I could care less about. Same for GTD because 2015 is essentially the last year for this category as we know it. |
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13 Nov 2014, 18:14 (Ref:3474298) | #1197 | |
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MuscleMilk, Dyson, Tucker, and ESM were the only full-season P1/2 teams left at the end of the ALMS, eh? Two of them have business factors which could have prohibited them from racing any more regardless of the merger. And really all of them are only in it for the fun of finishing on the podium, not as a professional team.
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13 Nov 2014, 18:43 (Ref:3474304) | #1198 | ||
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In other series news, Falken ran at Daytona for the first time in preparation for their first race their.
Also, in GTD news TRG has announced the driver lineup for their Aston, Nielsen and Davison. |
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13 Nov 2014, 19:07 (Ref:3474310) | #1199 | ||
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Fewer proto and GTLM cars, same stupid Grand-Am pit and FCY rules. Ed Bennett was right. The fans ARE the biggest winners!
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