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I think that is the problem Al, the lack of quality racing, that is why many are considering not rejoining. It is a shame because in the past this has not been the case and the BRSCC have put on some spectacular meetings.
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I know that some clubs provide free or subsidised membership for marshals and officials and, of course, I'm not referring to the BMMC, which exists for different reasons. I know this doesn't affect many of us but I've always been intrigued as to why the MSA charges for Clerks, Scrutineers and other licences. I'm not militant about it - just asking if people know if it's the same in other sports? The relevence to the thread is that the BRSCC used to put some degree of pressure on its' marshals to be members. |
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1 Feb 2006, 17:09 (Ref:1513627) | #57 | ||
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I didnt realise there were so many with reasons for leaving BRSCC. I have not renewed my membership this year and have I half filled stamp card. I just think that in so many ways they have lost direction and are no longer value for money or in some cases giving a service to the marshals. I have however renewed my BMMC (Main Club)
BARC, BRDC and MGCC. All clubs that at present seem to be ok. Unless you know different? |
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1 Feb 2006, 17:12 (Ref:1513631) | #58 | ||
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I must admit I've been thinking for some years now about severing my ties with the BRSCC. Just what do we get for our £30.00? As volunteering can be done via the BMMC, and you get treated equally well if you're a member or not, including inclusion in a usually most generous raffle!! Add to that a newsletter which Annie produces, mainly I suspect just to inform us of sign-on and briefing times. (Why ARE they under the control tower!? A real pain for those on Paddock, Druids and GHB) Another reason why it would be a wrench to leave 'em, is I've progressed through the ranks with most - if not all - of the Chiefs and some of them I class as very good friends, but in this day and age, thirty quid is, well, thirty quid!
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The BRSCC (as a whole) has never suggested or implied (to me) that I should be a member of their Club. The BRSCCNW has several "Chiefs" of various disciplines (Including, at times, yours truly) that are not members of the BRSCC. I once was given a free 12 month membership to the BRSCC but didn't renew it. Not because I had any negatives about the Club, but I didn't see how it affected my marshalling for them by not being a member. |
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I think Joh is referring to the old days when the Formula Ford Festival was a much larger event. There was a time when the BRSCC would only let marshals who were members officiate at the event. I can understand that idea when you have so many marshals who want to come along, sadly these days we aren't so lucky with marshal numbers.
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I've never really understood the high membership fees or all the different clubs you can / may / must join in the UK. We (Belgium) pay 10 € (6,5 Pound) for our MSA license. That is it, no extra costs, no other clubs to join. There is just the national MSA to join and you are allowed to marshal at both (!) tracks.
Why should I pay money to get a refund / discount at a D&D? Doesn't make any sense to me, to be honest. I'm there to marshal and have some fun. If I want to do a D&D, I wouldn't mind paying for it. I more than understand the problems that have been mentioned here, so I guess I'd do the same thing. I must stress that in my case BRSCC and others ( ) treated me very well all these years. But maybe that is because I'm just a bit |
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I'm a marshal, so I joined the marshals' club. The other clubs are racing clubs, so I never saw the reason to join them. I can't see I'm going to do anything other than give them my money. Before I marshalled I was a member of the MAC, mainly because it got me into Shelsley cheaper over the season. Since I got in cheaper once I went on the bank I let that lapse.
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I thought I was in a minority of one before reading this thread. I have also decided to stop my membership this year.
Before I say why, I must say I have lots of friends amongst the Brands BRSCC regulars and have always been treated well there, except for one run in with a previous circuit management. I have never had any problems marshalling at any other circuits either, whoever is running the meeting. So why have I decided to cease membership. First I feel the Club has lost it's way. The grass roots members are trying to enjoy their sport and do the right job right, but the leadership seems more intend on club kudos and image in the media. Yes, it is good to be able to say we run exotic meetings, but the bulk of the members are amatures who want to race or marshal for fun, not financial reward. Second, I don't need the club to marshal, either at Brands or at any other BRSCC run meeting at other circuits. The fee gives me absolutely nothing in return. One reason I will stay a member of BMMC is the insurance they provide, which is I believe even better than the MSA insurance you become entitled to at sign on. So I will continue to marshal at Brands with my friends, and continue tio marshal elsewhere with my friends, and have an extra £30 to pay for some diesel to get me there. |
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As i said earlier I am not renewing my BRSCC Membership but are staying with some others.
MG Car Club. I have an MG and the car club offers much more than just marshalling and racing. There is a very full social side. BRDC membersip entitles you to gain access to the circuit for most meetings as a spectator. Sorry but I have not been able to fit in their social activities. BARC If you attend BARC meetings as a marshal and get a stamp on the card provided it allows you to get a discount on membership. Depending on the number of meetings it can cover the total cost. (I have never had to pay yet) I belong to the BMMC as it is our own club and believe it to be excellent value. However I accept you dont have to belong to a club, but some do provide value for money. |
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3 Feb 2006, 13:40 (Ref:1514804) | #66 | ||
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Like many I am in the BMMC as it THE marshals Club, and not a race organisation with a marshals bit tagged on.
Now if these race organisations as commercial enterprises issued free oranges (overalls that is) and waterproofs etc (as all employers have to provide adequate H&S and PPE for their employees) maybe it would be different - they do after all make money out of our free labour. This year the BMMC is the only club I am renewing membership of as it is the only one which represents me and other marshals at ALL levels, and is also value for money regarding insurance, training etc. Having said that, all my marshalling friends are members of other or even no clubs and it makes absolutely no difference. We share a common hobby and that is what matters. |
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unlike it seems most people on this thread i only have a membership of the brscc as i marshal mainly in the midlands i can do enough meeting with out being in any other club . i stop beening a member of the marshals club for that reason as i saw no point in paying twice to marshal
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