[V8SC10R01&02] Abu Dhabi, Yas Marina (Merged x1) INCL SPOILERS! - Page 2

rich07 · 20 Nov 2009, 02:19 (Ref:2585511)

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Originally Posted by Chris - Melb

By the way, those night races at Calder Park were fabulous. I think the fact that the lighting wasn't perfect added to the drama of the evenings. Better than any daylight race meeting at Phillip Island, Sandown or Winton.

Couldn't agree more, if it had've been run during the day it wouldnt be the same, I remember being there and really enjoying it, love to see it happen again-but it won't.

racer69 · 20 Nov 2009, 05:45 (Ref:2585552)

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Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

It doesn't seem to be up on youtube anymore, but I definitely watched something on there about a calder night race in 96 or 97. The 99 round still seems to be up though, surely not a case of VESA rewriting history again?

It is a case of that.

The only Calder night races for V8s were 1995 (non-championship 'Peter Brock Classic') and the 1997 ATCC round mentioned in the thread.

Eastern Creek had a night race for the V8s in 1996, rd1 of that years ATCC

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Originally Posted by Chris - Melb

I was there for that event and more than just the main straight was under lights. The main straight had the permanent drag strip lighting, and the rest of the circuit had more spasmodic temporary generator powered lighting.

Isn't that what we want though, good lighting at the startline/pitarea, then a few lights round the circuit. The cars have headlights, and night racing is another driving skill.

I don't really see much point if the track is so lit you can leave the headlights off.

Tourer · 20 Nov 2009, 07:42 (Ref:2585565)

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Originally Posted by racer69

Isn't that what we want though, good lighting at the startline/pitarea, then a few lights round the circuit. The cars have headlights, and night racing is another driving skill.

I don't really see much point if the track is so lit you can leave the headlights off.

I agree that its a much better spectacle live at the track with lower light but it is terrible for TV when the cars have their lights on. All that ends up happening is a lot of flare as the cars head towards cameras that have been adjusted down for low light. I'd reckon that'll be why a low light night race is unlikely.

Belly13 · 22 Nov 2009, 10:49 (Ref:2587043)

Either way, I think Frosty will win the round. GRM #2 and #3.

Axeman444 · 22 Nov 2009, 23:24 (Ref:2587445)

what happens to the freight allocation for the teams with 2 overseas rounds back to back? If a car gets totalled in Abu Dhabi, what happens to get it on the track at Bahrain? Championship defining incident in the 1st round?

Mixer · 22 Nov 2009, 23:31 (Ref:2587449)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

what happens to the freight allocation for the teams with 2 overseas rounds back to back? If a car gets totalled in Abu Dhabi, what happens to get it on the track at Bahrain? Championship defining incident in the 1st round?

Its a worry - I don't think anybody is going to take a spare car. Todd's accident yesterday shows how easily a car can be destroyed.

Axeman444 · 23 Nov 2009, 00:01 (Ref:2587464)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

I don't think anybody is going to take a spare car

unless the rules have changed, i'm sure that would exceed the freight upload allowance

Tourer · 23 Nov 2009, 02:02 (Ref:2587509)

It'd be crazy if the rules weren't altered to allow for a replacement car for Bahrain if the main car was damaged beyond reasonable repair in Abu Dhabi, as long as the need is real.

Average Punter · 23 Nov 2009, 02:18 (Ref:2587512)

And what happens if the car is badly damaged enough so that it doesn't fit back into the freight box it arrived in?

V8 Fireworks · 23 Nov 2009, 04:02 (Ref:2587540)

Brawn managed X flyaway rounds to start F1 with just 2 tubs and very very few spare parts.

Surely a V8 team can, if they have to miss the second meeting then they have to.

STEALTHY · 23 Nov 2009, 04:05 (Ref:2587543)

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Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Surely a V8 team can, if they have to miss the second meeting then they have to.

What if a team does a whincup, and the car is a complete write off and cant race. Does the team get penalised for being a no show? Thats how the rule is written......

Mixer · 23 Nov 2009, 04:09 (Ref:2587547)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

What if a team does a whincup, and the car is a complete write off and cant race. Does the team get penalised for being a no show? Thats how the rule is written......

No - there is a force majeur rule they would invoke.

You could bet your butt other teams would help if it were at all possible to get that car fixed.

**GTRMagic** · 21 Dec 2009, 23:57 (Ref:2603458)

DJR "The Team" Helps Promote Prostate Cancer Awareness

Interesting that VESA is helping fund the 'alternate' uniform and race suit costs for teams with alcohol branding

Axeman444 · 22 Dec 2009, 01:18 (Ref:2603486)

given VESA are the ones organising a trip to 2x events where the teams cannot advertise their otherwise legitimate sponsors that pay for the teams to compete in the series, and therefore the teams have to outlay the cost of new/altered uniforms etc, why shouldn't VESA help fund it?

**GTRMagic** · 23 Dec 2009, 04:05 (Ref:2604005)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

given VESA are the ones organising a trip to 2x events where the teams cannot advertise their otherwise legitimate sponsors that pay for the teams to compete in the series, and therefore the teams have to outlay the cost of new/altered uniforms etc, why shouldn't VESA help fund it?

They should pay for the new uniforms for SBR, LDM or anyone else too then?

STEALTHY · 23 Dec 2009, 04:30 (Ref:2604010)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

They should pay for the new uniforms for SBR, LDM or anyone else too then?

Do any of those teams have to change their uniforms from their uniform due to alcohol sponsorship? Nope......

Chatters · 23 Dec 2009, 12:16 (Ref:2604146)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

They should pay for the new uniforms for SBR, LDM or anyone else too then?

+1 for STEALTHY, all the teams are paying money to get their first set of uniforms, it's only JDR, DJR, Bottle-O etc. that have to buy a second set, for two races...

**GTRMagic** · 23 Dec 2009, 21:34 (Ref:2604404)

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Originally Posted by Chatters

+1 for STEALTHY, all the teams are paying money to get their first set of uniforms, it's only JDR, DJR, Bottle-O etc. that have to buy a second set, for two races...

So get a sponsor that is sensitive to the cultural differences in the markets V8Supercar participates in. Is gambling allowed in these markets? Is v8bet.com also in trouble in this regard?

Nobody helped GSR or Gibson Motorsport when the circus went to WA and the mega health warnings had to appear on the cars, the transporters, the crew, the equipment.

Axeman444 · 23 Dec 2009, 22:17 (Ref:2604421)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

So get a sponsor that is sensitive to the cultural differences in the markets V8Supercar participates in. Is gambling allowed in these markets? Is v8bet.com also in trouble in this regard?

Nobody helped GSR or Gibson Motorsport when the circus went to WA and the mega health warnings had to appear on the cars, the transporters, the crew, the equipment.

however, wasn't that before the start of V8 racing... sorry i mean AVESCO... in Australia

precedence doesn't always guide us

rdmdog · 24 Dec 2009, 00:08 (Ref:2604463)

Don't worry about that, imagine if Jesus Racing was in the main game! Merry Christmas everyone!

The UAE is very progressive though.

davester · 24 Dec 2009, 02:11 (Ref:2604510)

Yet the Big Mac ran in Abu Dhabi F1 with Diageo plastered over its rear wing.

Tourer · 24 Dec 2009, 03:15 (Ref:2604528)

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Originally Posted by davester

Yet the Big Mac ran in Abu Dhabi F1 with Diageo plastered over its rear wing.

Probably able to do that as Diageo not a brand as such I guess

Crash Test · 24 Dec 2009, 03:16 (Ref:2604529)

I suppose you can't go to the pub and get a pint of 'Diageo'. Much like if it is the V8 Supercar series presented by Bigpond and Lion Nathan...

Chatters · 24 Dec 2009, 06:24 (Ref:2604559)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

So get a sponsor that is sensitive to the cultural differences in the markets V8Supercar participates in. Is gambling allowed in these markets? Is v8bet.com also in trouble in this regard?

Or keep the series in a country where the majority of said sponsors come from! Do you honestly think that when a sponsor signs on to join a V8 team they are thinking "you beauty, this will be great for our Abu Dhabi and Bahrain markets"???

STEALTHY · 24 Dec 2009, 07:55 (Ref:2604567)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

So get a sponsor that is sensitive to the cultural differences in the markets V8Supercar participates in. Is gambling allowed in these markets? Is v8bet.com also in trouble in this regard?

Nobody helped GSR or Gibson Motorsport when the circus went to WA and the mega health warnings had to appear on the cars, the transporters, the crew, the equipment.

Theres too much of this changing to suit others crap going on. Personally i don't see any benefit to the category by having those overseas rounds (NZ excluded). The series should come as a package deal, you either get all the teams as they are, or none!

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