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Old 13 Apr 2010, 13:58 (Ref:2672009)   #361
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Is that before or after Cadwell Park early 73?
The very recent rebuild/recreation.
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Old 13 Apr 2010, 15:19 (Ref:2672062)   #362
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Fabulous post on 1975 Alan. Many thanks for putting all this information together.
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Old 13 Apr 2010, 18:36 (Ref:2672192)   #363
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Yes Alan a lot of typing
i can later add some snippets of info
however im a lazy toad way too many alan mann escorts mentioned / for sale can you formulate a date line list on them with std code/town locations
can shed light on something later willPM u my comments

The Tony dickinson stilleto 1300 car became the george bevan rob mason 2 litre car of 77 season
The alec poole skoda went thru many racers hands to Tony Dickenson-who had it after him?

Hawkers DFV Capri to Niven ended up with Gary Charlwood and Jag engine at Lydden circa 82 ish?
Tony Hazelwoods Daf was owned raced by many folk
1 Colin Folwell ( corbeau seats)
2 Alan Minshaw
3 Tony Sugden
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Old 13 Apr 2010, 20:40 (Ref:2672283)   #364
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The alec poole skoda went thru many racers hands to Tony Dickenson-who had it after him?
Dave Wilson by 1981 then Simon Purcell 1982 but where is it today?
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Old 13 Apr 2010, 21:44 (Ref:2672328)   #365
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well that was the question i was asking wasnt it??!!
Dave wilson hmm need to see foto of the car to jog my " i was there " memory im sure ive seen it at Brands in 81 where did Dave come from?
Simon Purcell doesnt ring any bells
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Old 14 Apr 2010, 15:13 (Ref:2672680)   #366
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[QUOTE=driftwood;2672192]Yes Alan a lot of typing
i can later add some snippets of info
however im a lazy toad way too many alan mann escorts mentioned / for sale can you formulate a date line list on them with std code/town locations
can shed light on something later willPM u my comments

My brother and I (Chris and Peter Wray) purchased XOO 346F (or it could possibly have been XOO 348F) from Chris Meek/Tate of Leeds in early/mid 1973. The car was in Doug Niven's Border Reivers colours and I believe Meek had taken it from Niven in a part-ex deal.
We only wanted the car for it's 1790cc BDA engine which we put in another Escort and sold the Mann car (probably mid to late 1973 and sold from the Sheffield area) to Stuart Turner who lived in the Manchester/Cheshire area. This car was later sold to Alaister Lyall but it may have gone through dealers between Turner and Lyall. I then lost track of the car.
Of course in those days an ex-Alan Mann car had no more value than any other racing saloon car - if only we knew then!!!
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Old 11 May 2010, 14:44 (Ref:2688634)   #367
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1970



1971



1972


1974



Clarifications to Alec Poole's cars (source: whole page article in MN 28-8-75).

1970-71 Turbo Mini (190 bhp) – sold to the Caribbean

1972 – ex Bill Shaw/Roy Pierpoint Rover 3500 fitted with a stroker kit to increase the capacity to 4.5 – also sold to the Caribbean

[1973 – some races in a slightly modified Group 2 Datsun Sunny 1.3]

1974 – drove the Bob Ryan Broadspeed Escort (ex-Rafael Barrios) and acquired the Gillian Fortescue-Thomas Escort 2.0 from Ford at Boreham, this also ended up in the Caribbean
I live in Barbados (and organise the Barbados Rally Carnival) and own the Escort brought here by Alec Poole in 1974. Alec's notes from the period describe the car as an ex-AMR car that he changed the rear suspension to the Broadspeed setup. The car raced here with an 1800BDA, ZF, Atlas. The AMR front suspension is still on the car.

I found this post while searching for info to restore the car, can anyone help with some history or references? It is definately a type-48 bodyshell with square headlights so would indicate a 1968 birth.
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Old 13 May 2010, 12:57 (Ref:2689749)   #368
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Barrios' Escort

I would be delighted to hear of any history of the Barrios car, if that is the one you have. Did both of the Escorts used by Alec Poole in 1974 go to the Caribbean? Or just the Fortescue-Thomas car as implied in the MN article?

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Old 13 May 2010, 18:26 (Ref:2689925)   #369
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I would be delighted to hear of any history of the Barrios car, if that is the one you have. Did both of the Escorts used by Alec Poole in 1974 go to the Caribbean? Or just the Fortescue-Thomas car as implied in the MN article?
I've been told by some ex_ford people the car that Poole bought and shipped here was XOO347F as raced by Jackie Oliver in 68. I know nothing else other than the sale to Poole in 73, shipment to Barbados in 74 and subsequent race history.
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Old 18 May 2010, 13:01 (Ref:2693299)   #370
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Just spoke to Gillian Goldsmith (Fortesque-Thomas). She says she drove two Works Escorts after the Mexicos; one was a old car sat in a shed at Boreham that was 'dusted off' and used as a test mule for the new aluminium block 2ltr BDA (BDG) and was only used in club races in Shell colours. The other was a 1300BDA that was used in the 1973 Grand Prix support race in blue/white. The Shell car was run by Don Moore and had very wide front wheels to stop the understeer, that is the car she is sure went to Ireland (she remembers getting a call from Ireland inquiring as to how a woman could drive a car with such heavy steering). The Poole notes from 74 state that it is an 'Alan Mann/Ford Boreham/Don Moore' car.
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Old 18 May 2010, 15:42 (Ref:2693388)   #371
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tony sugden never owned the daff just had it on loan for a year 1977 used the bde out of the escort to win the rivett super saloon upto 2500cc class
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Old 5 Dec 2010, 15:25 (Ref:2799966)   #372
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Mattie's Escorts

Hello there, I lurk here and on Octane, making the odd comment and asking the odd question. Can you tell me where the Robinson version Escort II is now, and who has it? I wonder if it will ever appear on the tracks here again (which I think it should!)? Also - do you have any colour reference photo's of the MK1 cars, particularly the 'SuperSize' version, as I am attempting to build a 1/24th scale model replica? If there are any copyright issues related to the photo's, I could have them sent to my email address. In this case, they are genuinely for research purposes! I posted a rather poor quality rear - three quarter photo of the MKII while it was in the ownership of Fintan Newport on Octane.ie, and can post it here if anyone is interested.

Matties Escorts .
The first escort, the red Amoco car was bought from John Young of Superspeed , it was a fully trimmed shell , fitted with an mae , which Mattie did not use , fitting instead a BDA supplied by Holbay, as I said earlier it was sold to rally driver Noel Smith, the second MK1, ran in white Amoco and then Churchman green red and white colours was built to order for Mattie by Jeff Goodliffe , still using an all steel shell, an FVA was fitted , latyer upgraded by Alan Smith to FVC spec .Mttie recalls the car was fitted with cast aluminium front struts and ,tca's, the rear suspenson (shocks) were monted on the bottom of the axle tube , on the top to the floor pan , and it worked very well .
The space frame MK2 was commisioned from John Robinson ,on a visit to his premises , not a cancelled order as suggested , the MK1 was traded in against it , MK2 sold to Fintan Newport at the end of 78, Fintan racecd it for a few years , before selling it to the manwho still has it today,[/QUOTE]
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Old 9 Jan 2011, 23:37 (Ref:2813469)   #373
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Robinson spaceframe escort

Fintan Newport
Pat Speers Co Armagh
Frankie McCarthy Co Armagh
Adrian Kirkland Co Tyrone current owner
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Old 21 Jan 2011, 17:38 (Ref:2818905)   #374
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Colin James – Escort Martin V8 3.0
As if this didn't sound odd enough, I've just spotted Colin James racing a Chevron - Martin V8 in the Zolder Interserie race in 1976!

http://www.racingsportscars.com/cove...976-06-13e.jpg

Did your reading give you any clues about James having a Chevron?
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Old 21 Jan 2011, 20:21 (Ref:2818971)   #375
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Thats a lot of B31s!
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