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28 Aug 2010, 12:54 (Ref:2751388) | #26 | ||
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The lowest class is D which has the Corolla Sportivo, RenaultSport Clio, Astra Turbo etc in it. I don't believe the Yaris is eligible anymore.
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Here was a chance for the event and the GT category to have a race with a clean sheet of paper. Hold a proper outright race where the best team and drivers from anywhere in the world can win but yet it seems we will have another charity benefit. I will look on in interest to see the when entry list released. |
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30 Aug 2010, 09:05 (Ref:2752189) | #28 | ||
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Try this for size, "Hi Audi, my names James, I'm from Australia, how bout you spent a zillion dollars and bring down some of your cars to Bathurst, oh, by the way, only send two good drivers, and if you go too quick on Saturday, we might throw 200kgs on the passanger seat for the race " Audis response "Get ****ed" |
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31 Aug 2010, 02:54 (Ref:2752538) | #29 | ||
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Do they actually want factory entries with three professional drivers aboard?
One entry like that would kill the whole race. I'm not a fan of the way the driver seeding stuff is handled in the Aus GT Championship, but once you start to talk about races where multiple drivers are required, it can actually work quite well. |
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31 Aug 2010, 03:03 (Ref:2752539) | #30 | |
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I don't have an issue with the seeded driver rule...many championships use it and GT Championship was basically dead before they implemented it. I think that domestic teams will make up the majority of GT entries for this and if there is sufficient interest from overseas competitors this may be reviewed in future years. It is also likely that any international team at the moment would be looking for additional funding for the race and hence a pro-am line-up will be handy to raise the funds...
If you read the article, the parity and target lap times will be known to competitors before the event and only minor changes should be made come the weekend - I would probably say that no changes should happen on the weekend but I guess if there is a car that is 7sec a lap faster... Part 2 now available |
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31 Aug 2010, 04:09 (Ref:2752545) | #31 | ||
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Some people are talking about this driver seeding as if it is only happening in aus gt - even the le mans series mandates no all pro line ups for LMP2
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31 Aug 2010, 04:27 (Ref:2752547) | #32 | ||
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I can see why people would be concerned about an all pro lineup but at the same time I cant see why a car owner cant have two pros in his car.
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31 Aug 2010, 05:42 (Ref:2752551) | #33 | ||
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Endurance racing especially at Bathurst for these type of cars should be a leveller in terms of car performance and driver performance.
If you look at the two 24 hour events of the past (Monaro's aside), most teams were made up pro's and amatuers due to the cost of the event. The distance and characteristics of the circuit also act to balance the field over 12 hours anyway. Mandating the number of 'seeded' drivers which is very ambuiguous anyway and parity adjustments over a weekend just complicates things and turns people away. |
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31 Aug 2010, 22:49 (Ref:2752949) | #34 | ||
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Entries now open...will be interesting to see how many 'overseas' entries come in. Makes good economic sense to be an overseas entrant and by-pass being rail-roaded by Aust GT and have to commit financially to their 2011 championship/income.
Expect lots of Kiwi and Asian entries with Australian accents. Reg's out too, one seeded driver per team and its a genuine seed, must have a pretty good recent resume to be classed as one, unlike GT's classification. |
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The determining of the grid sounds like loads of fun..
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So 3 drivers aggregate time sets the grid? Hope they get their own sessions of significant length to set good times... and that there arent car issues.. |
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1 Sep 2010, 02:21 (Ref:2752982) | #36 | ||
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I don't like that qually change, I rather enjoyed the idea of a Simonsen v Hackett v Wall v Baird shooutout for pole.
The Seeded driver regs are interesting too, and it seems drivers aged 55 and more are excempt. How old are guys like Seton, Crompton, Richards, Morris etc? And how do they define a works manufacturer driver? Does someone like Paul Morris count because of the Diet Coke BMW? There's a good opportunity here for fast guys who haven't quite ticked a championship box... someone like Peter Hackett could pair up with Allan Simonsen, Tony Quinn with Craig Baird, The Koundouris bros with Fabian Coulthard/Dave Reynolds etc. Maybe there will be less room for people like Paul Stokell who have won the GT championship in the past (making him a seeded driver) but don't have recent form in the category. |
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Whilst going through the Bathurst 12hr website I read this
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I do believe that 2009 and 2010 GT3 cars will be eligible - in order to draw some international competitors, which would also apply to Ted's Lambo
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Not sure if this applies to other 2009/2010 cars or not. I'm guessing not. Link to supp regs http://www.bathurst12hour.com.au/wp-...as-31.8.10.pdf |
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1 Sep 2010, 06:42 (Ref:2753022) | #41 | ||
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Surely you can't have one set of eligibility rules for half the grid and another for the other half?
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1 Sep 2010, 07:22 (Ref:2753039) | #42 | ||
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Get an international team to "lease" Ted's Lambo and enter it?
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Huglin has NZ company connections, problem solved with entering the 2010 Lamborghini. He hates AGT after they blanked his car anyway. The qualifying thing is a worry. Don't expect a Simonsen/Baird style shoot-out in qualifying as showing your cards will result in some back-of-a-napkin style parity being placed on the car for the race. We will see race laps several seconds faster than any qualifying. And I can't see two pro drivers together in any case. With the budget to run a championship GT car for this event being $100-150k, pro drivers don't write cheques so owners will be seeking capable drivers with funds. |
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Sorry to say but these regs are getting laughable (from a fans point of view...and aren't they the one's that count?)
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1 Sep 2010, 09:17 (Ref:2753086) | #45 | |
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like the qualifying format, what a great idea.
Think you boys are making mountains out of molehills regarding the eligibility regs |
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had a rethink about the qualifying...at least if the 'pros' tank, it means less chance of having to bench a production car that doesn't meet the 130% rule.
No whinge about eligibility from me, all for a FIA GT3 based inclusion. Racer, fans all important in regards to the regs?...please. |
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Wasnt it Mr Palmer running out of money that killed the 24 hour?
i reckon if you go back to every 12 hour thread on her there are prople complaining about the eligibility, based on what you are suggesting then the race should not be happening |
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The failure of a tv network and title sponsor to buy into the event it what brought it to its knees. As racer suggests the unstable regulations would have been a factor in this. |
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sorry you are right, he stopped spending the money.
The regulations may have been a factor, but they may not have also or may have been a really minor factor |
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